Disappointed

[6pe]

Ok so, after a year of me being banned, today I joined the server to see what has changed. People said that they added a cool-down on pains and added a few other guns blah blah blah. And I thought, how bad can it be?
So I was waiting for over an hour at berx and literally nobody was on, so I logged off.
An hour later I saw that 5 players were on, so I went to berx and tried testing pains and bandages and stuff and, it was depressing lol.

Pains do absolutely sh*t all.
There's a ****ing inf cap.
Every gun is a Pea shooter other than the barrett and ksg.
Gatling guns way too overpowered.
I can't buy myself too many bandages and riot because of the inf cap and I ending up going in military.
I don't know why the **** there is a KitPvP on HavocMC.
Where tf is HH.
There is nobody to play with.
**** the pain cooldown.
Fix the Anticheat, there was a guy flying around KitPvP.
I liked the map before this one.

Things I liked

I actually didn't mind running around trying to avoid being shot.
Bandages are good.
The Barrett is balanced.
Infection from Zombies.
New gun textures.
Reset.

Why can't we just go back to Mid 2017 with the update that had no cooldown on pains,
the map was alright,
wars were fun,
pretty much all the guns were balanced,
you could actually tank.
server used to get 100 to 200 players.

Is that too hard to implement? It's what everyone wants, right? The server is getting like 8 - 15 players in the day. And even if we go back it has nothing to do with it being unfair for the newer players because we all started from somewhere, I remember being survivor with kit governor and having a great time despite ThePaccalypse, and Bandits would go full jugg and there were riots everywhere.

I just want to ask the owners, coming from someone who has been playing since MCAdventure,
can we just go back to the old mechanics?

 

[JT900]

I'm gonna tell you right now, man.
The owners do not care what we members have to say. They never even consider ideas given by the community itself.

I'm going to wish you luck that this happens, but I can't say I have hope it'll go anywhere.

 

[Chris_XP]

Honestly at this point I feel like they've left it too long, so even if they do change things back to what they were like a year ago, I doubt there will be an influx in players.

 

[KyronicGaming]

I'm gonna tell you right now, man.
The owners do not care what we members have to say. They never even consider ideas given by the community itself.

I'm going to wish you luck that this happens, but I can't say I have hope it'll go anywhere.

I'm gonna tell you right now, man.
The owners do not care what we members have to say when they act like you do. They never even consider ideas given by the community itself when presented with the attitude you currently hold.

I'm going to wish you luck that you change, but I can't say I have hope it'll go anywhere.

.

 

[KyronicGaming]

I agree with most things. The current map is staying. Ill send to Jacob to see what he thinks.

 

[JT900]

I'm gonna tell you right now, man.
The owners do not care what we members have to say when they act like you do. They never even consider ideas given by the community itself when presented with the attitude you currently hold.

I'm going to wish you luck that you change, but I can't say I have hope it'll go anywhere.

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Well I lost all hope for them to do anything when they repeatedly kept lying to us. The removed MM and MW, and you're on your knees, licking their boots like you haven't noticed their constant shortcomings.
It's almost like you want to get staff or something.

I mean, let's be honest here. A lot of people were and still are outraged by the crap the owners kept giving everyone who isn't a TMD fanboy/girl.
A lot of those outraged people have either left and relocated to another server, OR they try to soapbox this **** like I do.

And I'm the bad guy for saying this stuff when others have before? Where's the logic in that?

 

[KyronicGaming]

Well I lost all hope for them to do anything when they repeatedly kept lying to us. The removed MM and MW, and you're on your knees, licking their boots like you haven't noticed their constant shortcomings.
It's almost like you want to get staff or something.

I mean, let's be honest here. A lot of people were and still are outraged by the crap the owners kept giving everyone who isn't a TMD fanboy/girl.
A lot of those outraged people have either left and relocated to another server, OR they try to soapbox this **** like I do.

And I'm the bad guy for saying this stuff when others have before? Where's the logic in that?

I understand from your point of view about what's going on. You feel ****ed about and I am sorry about that. But we didn't lie. A lie is a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive, We didn't do this. We didn't intentionally go "Yo Jacob it'd be a laugh now if we changed this about pains then change it back again"

Communication can be massively improved, I want a new community manager and @JBentley694 would be perfect considering the builder newsletters he does. Beta testers too I'd add to make sure updates are liked and not bugged.

I see Jacobs mistakes but everyone has made them including me. But the side of Jacob you guys don't see is a man struggling but desperately trying to please a server that in the end no matter what happens, someone, somewhere will be upset.

I don't want to get staff considering I am already staff. I am happy with my position but I just have respect for Jacob, Brad, and all the builders and devs work.

Iv said this before but Minewars is dead, hell the star wars brand itself is aswell and we need profitable game modes in order to it be worth it. The same argument can be made about The Walking Dead but It's still got longer than Star wars and at least we already have the game mode. In a few years, TMD might very well be the second side game on Havoc to something brand new and exciting. Perhaps a Marvel game mode as that's thriving currently.

Every fan of any game mode on this server has been ****ed about, some more than others. But what won't help is vague statements like "Minewars should come back" or abuse. We gotta come together to rebuild this server or its gonna fail, both sides have major flaws that needs working on. Abuse won't help so let's start talking about what will.

 

[Bulleteater]

I'm gonna tell you right now, man.
The owners do not care what we members have to say when they act like you do. They never even consider ideas given by the community itself when presented with the attitude you currently hold.

I'm going to wish you luck that you change, but I can't say I have hope it'll go anywhere.

.

pretty sure they just don’t care regardless considering how far the server has fallen from its glory days

 

[Bulleteater]

Ok so, after a year of me being banned, today I joined the server to see what has changed. People said that they added a cool-down on pains and added a few other guns blah blah blah. And I thought, how bad can it be?
So I was waiting for over an hour at berx and literally nobody was on, so I logged off.
An hour later I saw that 5 players were on, so I went to berx and tried testing pains and bandages and stuff and, it was depressing lol.

Pains do absolutely sh*t all.
There's a ****ing inf cap.
Every gun is a Pea shooter other than the barrett and ksg.
Gatling guns way too overpowered.
I can't buy myself too many bandages and riot because of the inf cap and I ending up going in military.
I don't know why the **** there is a KitPvP on HavocMC.
Where tf is HH.
There is nobody to play with.
**** the pain cooldown.
Fix the Anticheat, there was a guy flying around KitPvP.
I liked the map before this one.

Things I liked

I actually didn't mind running around trying to avoid being shot.
Bandages are good.
The Barrett is balanced.
Infection from Zombies.
New gun textures.
Reset.

Why can't we just go back to Mid 2017 with the update that had no cooldown on pains,
the map was alright,
wars were fun,
pretty much all the guns were balanced,
you could actually tank.
server used to get 100 to 200 players.

Is that too hard to implement? It's what everyone wants, right? The server is getting like 8 - 15 players in the day. And even if we go back it has nothing to do with it being unfair for the newer players because we all started from somewhere, I remember being survivor with kit governor and having a great time despite ThePaccalypse, and Bandits would go full jugg and there were riots everywhere.

I just want to ask the owners, coming from someone who has been playing since MCAdventure,
can we just go back to the old mechanics?

Mid 2017? Dude, no. Mid 2016 was the ****. 700 player server, you would need a rank to get past the cap during peak hours. Constant 8+ player wars.

Too bad I was still really bad back then but it was a blast

 

[Flirtin]

It would be nice to see the server just combine into tmd-1 & tmd-2, and bring back the old combat and mechanics.

 

[Firelillx]

Well I lost all hope for them to do anything when they repeatedly kept lying to us. The removed MM and MW, and you're on your knees, licking their boots like you haven't noticed their constant shortcomings.
It's almost like you want to get staff or something.

I mean, let's be honest here. A lot of people were and still are outraged by the crap the owners kept giving everyone who isn't a TMD fanboy/girl.
A lot of those outraged people have either left and relocated to another server, OR they try to soapbox this **** like I do.

And I'm the bad guy for saying this stuff when others have before? Where's the logic in that?

No you are just expressing rightful frustration after being told a bunch of lies. From lying about temporarily taking down MM, to the leading on of MW.

People don’t wanna hear your opinion, but a lot of others agree with you. At this point it’s not even worth arguing over bc nothing is gonna change.

 

[Firelillx]

It would be nice to see the server just combine into tmd-1 & tmd-2, and bring back the old combat and mechanics.

They did combine 1 and 2

 

[ArmenTheHeli]

Why is it that all the people who want spam pains back are the ones with ranks or kits? Sure, pvping with an unlimited supply of weapons is fun for everyone with a rank, but for those without any perks it's complete aids. They can't warp back to get the gear to begin with (unless someone tps them back), but since most unranked players are on small teams together that hardly matters. You can't keep fighting a ranked team who can teleport back with better gear than you. I'm all for bringing back old TMD, but there should at least be a place for everyone who doesn't want pay to win pvp.

Before anyone says i'm complaining because I have no rank, I have Titan. So yes, I know the absurd advantage it gives in pvp when my opponents can't get kit assassin or kit hunter.

 

[Bulleteater]

Why is it that all the people who want spam pains back are the ones with ranks or kits? Sure, pvping with an unlimited supply of weapons is fun for everyone with a rank, but for those without any perks it's complete aids. They can't warp back to get the gear to begin with (unless someone tps them back), but since most unranked players are on small teams together that hardly matters. You can't keep fighting a ranked team who can teleport back with better gear than you. I'm all for bringing back old TMD, but there should at least be a place for everyone who doesn't want pay to win pvp.

Before anyone says i'm complaining because I have no rank, I have Titan. So yes, I know the absurd advantage it gives in pvp when my opponents can't get kit assassin or kit hunter.

that’s why the new servers were created, which caused the schism in the first place.

they focused the combat on new players which was a huge risk and basically threw the vets to the side and it kicked them in the ***, and now they have to stick to it and hope it works out in their favor

 

[Octaviene]

Bullcrap. Old TMD was the best.
This comes from someone who led a team of no-ranks.
UprisingMax, UprisingJake, EpicZacc, JustMatt.
We got our gear from killing Infinites. Quite frankly, the Groza and katana are strong enough to solo full riots with if you are smart enough to attain the element of surprise.
I loved the fact that infinite had no cap. The infinite players were a source of gear for those who couldn't get it easily. They were literally walking goldmines that they didn't intend to be.
My team has taken on Calimero's team before and won without a single Mythical or Titan on our side (None of us dropped 5v5. We killed all 5). Our highest ranked players are two Champions, myself and UprisingJake.
Pains are easy to get. People used to buy them in excess. Just go to your friendly neighbourhood pain seller and buy a stack for 1k.
Its not that hard. You just need to use your brain instead of complaining and expecting everything to be done for you.

 

[CravenPython108]

Iv said this before but Minewars is dead, hell the star wars brand itself is aswell and we need profitable game modes in order to it be worth it. The same argument can be made about The Walking Dead but It's still got longer than Star wars and at least we already have the game mode. In a few years, TMD might very well be the second side game on Havoc to something brand new and exciting. Perhaps a Marvel game mode as that's thriving currently.

You keep saying this, but I still haven't seen you say anything to back it up. I know you want your breaking bad mode, but trying to exterminate Mine Wars won't make that happen.

 

[ArmenTheHeli]

that’s why the new servers were created, which caused the schism in the first place.

they focused the combat on new players which was a huge risk and basically threw the vets to the side and it kicked them in the ***, and now they have to stick to it and hope it works out in their favor

They should have left TMDOP as the 1.8 pvp with the old map. Idk why they are making the realism changes server wide, since 1.8 TMD was focused on pvp not realism. Then the old players would be happy because nothing changed for them, and the realism and rp players can have a different server.

 

[Flirtin]

They did combine 1 and 2

I meant make the servers tmd-1 & tmd-2 instead of tmdpvp & tmdpve

 

[Cat_Squirrel_Inc]

You keep saying this, but I still haven't seen you say anything to back it up. I know you want your breaking bad mode, but trying to exterminate Mine Wars won't make that happen.

I feel like a breaking bad gm would be even less enjoyable, ngl...

sowwy Ky <3

 

[Firelillx]

I feel like a breaking bad gm would be even less enjoyable, ngl...

sowwy Ky <3

no one is going to play a game mode for a tv show thats been over for years lol. Maybe a few and if it was made really well it could be fun. Agreed.