Explanation of why people miss old-tmd

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They’re nostalgic, and want to relive old memories with teams or curtain players. Maybe its just the map or whatever it is, you wont be able to have those same moments of your life again. It comes to point where it’s time to move on. Maybe that’s finding a new hobbies or just play current gamemodes on havocmc. I’ve been waiting for change, but is it really fair to put all pressure and responsibility on one somebody else? No, you have to put the change in motion not somebody else.

You want to relive old memories or feelings in period of time? You already have it, in your head. Player base is starting to be unreasonable, towards the Owners of server. They can only do soo much but time keeps going so eventually you have too aswell. Sure it’s nice to stop change but that’s impossible, I’m at point where tmd isn’t enjoyable to be on now (probably dont care) but, for people still wishing or hoping for Owners and even builders too remake old buildings or whatever you still can but, thing isn’t going to the same as it use too, 2 or 3 years ago. You have to recreate the memories make a team or whatever too feel satisfied, with current state of the server.

This last bit not too important read if you want
(Just a post of me “quitting”)

Server brought me weeks of entertainment, but time is telling me too move on. You got to accept memories you already have, I have. It’s been fun playing on this network but things end sadly but just how it’s suppose to be and you can’t change that but atleast nobody can take memories you made. I’ve found knew place to make new memories so, I would like to thank everyone for the experience and help create this network a network.

I wish community well.
Taloco ;-)

 

[mindblaster007]

Well said and wish you luck in the future.

 

[seuboi]

Thats a very mature way to face this. Like, heck in 2~3 years we don't even wear the same clothes, watch the same shows, listen the exact same music. Why do people think they can bring back when it depends on so much people? I'd think otherwise if we had like 800+ players claiming to bring it back.

 

[PhoenixOfDreams]

For me? It's us that is the problem, we destroyed ourselves. Look at us, we're always, constantly bashing the owners, mods, admins, all the time, and you know what? Even I'm tired of it, and I've never been staff on this server. You ever see a server with a relatively small staff, dozens of servers, 6 minigames, with 3d Models, full custom texture packs, 8000+ x 8000+ non-automatically generated maps, etc. etc etc.? They deal with us, almost every frikin' day, and this has been going on for years now. Someone, please do tell me, What is the number of times the staff were dissed, compared to when they were thanked? Nowadays, I can see "Unban me!" "Ban reset now!" Etc. Without seeing any sign of "Sorry" or "Thank you", nowadays. I remember when this place was, what I considered to be a relatively great community, and I rarely see the friends and allies I fought, talked, cherished with. And it wasn't even so long ago. I'd say it all began to crumble, maybe 10-8 months ago, when people were asking for more, and the huge update, with the increase of the TMD map, and the Cooldown for the Painkillers, with a few other changes. It was when some uprising, or something, began to plague HavocMC. Then, 6 months later, less people were joining, although before, it was more prominent, at this point, it was clearly obvious. Some of my best friends there, I never saw again. It was as if they died, or something. Then, somewhere along the line, people really got pissed. The Staff were dissed, at least, I think, way more, people were asking for more, and chances are, if I were Staff, I would be sick of it. Perhaps that might explain why I've seen a crap ton of "Members" who lost their ranks as staff. It's a sad tale. I just wish this whole uprising virus crap never happened. I wish we could go back to what it was like before.

 

[Cat_Squirrel_Inc]

For me? It's us that is the problem, we destroyed ourselves. Look at us, we're always, constantly bashing the owners, mods, admins, all the time, and you know what? Even I'm tired of it, and I've never been staff on this server. You ever see a server with a relatively small staff, dozens of servers, 6 minigames, with 3d Models, full custom texture packs, 8000+ x 8000+ non-automatically generated maps, etc. etc etc.? They deal with us, almost every frikin' day, and this has been going on for years now. Someone, please do tell me, What is the number of times the staff were dissed, compared to when they were thanked? Nowadays, I can see "Unban me!" "Ban reset now!" Etc. Without seeing any sign of "Sorry" or "Thank you", nowadays. I remember when this place was, what I considered to be a relatively great community, and I rarely see the friends and allies I fought, talked, cherished with. And it wasn't even so long ago. I'd say it all began to crumble, maybe 10-8 months ago, when people were asking for more, and the huge update, with the increase of the TMD map, and the Cooldown for the Painkillers, with a few other changes. It was when some uprising, or something, began to plague HavocMC. Then, 6 months later, less people were joining, although before, it was more prominent, at this point, it was clearly obvious. Some of my best friends there, I never saw again. It was as if they died, or something. Then, somewhere along the line, people really got pissed. The Staff were dissed, at least, I think, way more, people were asking for more, and chances are, if I were Staff, I would be sick of it. Perhaps that might explain why I've seen a crap ton of "Members" who lost their ranks as staff. It's a sad tale. I just wish this whole uprising virus crap never happened. I wish we could go back to what it was like before.

We need more people like you. Every word in there is true, and quite frankly, it's depressing that it is. The community is never happy, and sometimes I wonder if their complaining is just for FUN. I bet you it's just for the sake of complaining, I BET you. It's unfortunate, it really is. Also, the staff are heckled for things they can't even CONTROL. I wish we could go back to the old days, I wish we could. But the train has left that station, now all we got is the trail ahead. Keep your chin up and a positive attitude as your shield. Maybe one day we can overcome this slump.

-Cat

 

[PeachDAboss]

For me? It's us that is the problem, we destroyed ourselves. Look at us, we're always, constantly bashing the owners, mods, admins, all the time, and you know what? Even I'm tired of it, and I've never been staff on this server. You ever see a server with a relatively small staff, dozens of servers, 6 minigames, with 3d Models, full custom texture packs, 8000+ x 8000+ non-automatically generated maps, etc. etc etc.? They deal with us, almost every frikin' day, and this has been going on for years now. Someone, please do tell me, What is the number of times the staff were dissed, compared to when they were thanked? Nowadays, I can see "Unban me!" "Ban reset now!" Etc. Without seeing any sign of "Sorry" or "Thank you", nowadays. I remember when this place was, what I considered to be a relatively great community, and I rarely see the friends and allies I fought, talked, cherished with. And it wasn't even so long ago. I'd say it all began to crumble, maybe 10-8 months ago, when people were asking for more, and the huge update, with the increase of the TMD map, and the Cooldown for the Painkillers, with a few other changes. It was when some uprising, or something, began to plague HavocMC. Then, 6 months later, less people were joining, although before, it was more prominent, at this point, it was clearly obvious. Some of my best friends there, I never saw again. It was as if they died, or something. Then, somewhere along the line, people really got pissed. The Staff were dissed, at least, I think, way more, people were asking for more, and chances are, if I were Staff, I would be sick of it. Perhaps that might explain why I've seen a crap ton of "Members" who lost their ranks as staff. It's a sad tale. I just wish this whole uprising virus crap never happened. I wish we could go back to what it was like before.

Because the Owner's are to blame. I know the owners personally, and they are good people. But they have made some very bad decisions, and ignored some crucial feedback that has costed them dearly. I was staff, a Sr.Mod and considered the "leader" of the staff team by some. I wasn't sick of the community constantly bashing us on the forums, it has always happened. I was sick of poor communication from the Owners, and no information of updates, or server plans. Your post has some parts that are true, and I agree. But the community never asked for more, they just asked for better.

 

[MichaelSteve]

I was staff, a Sr.Mod and considered the "leader" of the staff team by some. I wasn't sick of the community constantly bashing us on the forums, it has always happened.

So you’re also to blame?

 

[PeachDAboss]

So you’re also to blame?

Blame for what? 3 failed maps?

 

[jhotrod]

let me tell yall something if ya wana hear it. The reason the people want the server back the way it was is because it gave them some feeling of adrenaline. The fear of running into huge packs of walkers or a new group of people who want to either help or hurt you. Theses days however walkers are just target practice and people just camp at szs and don't explore because of lack of need due to abundance of resources. However this could be fixed. first off remove jug plain and simple as that and if ya don't like that deal with it. remove bags add back chests. then limit chest amounts remove cars from them and have them just randomly spawn with a very low chance of doing so same with bikes. add more vehicles like boats trucks that you can store stuff in as well as one with guns in them. organized community's would be great to be more waking dead like so there are fights between them and have big wars like the show and comics have. that's how you bring it back (p.s) add grenade launchers for real guys

 

[jhotrod]

see something like this when it comes to random car spawning
somewhere that cars would normally be and would be working

 

[MichaelSteve]

Blame for what? 3 failed maps?

For the staff issues, lol.

 

[KyronicGaming]

Blame for what? 3 failed maps?

You keep claiming out that you were the backbone of the staff team, but I see no change in how they operate since your departure. Don't turn this onto us builders, We have created great maps and put hours into them. The only thing currently bigger than the time we spent building maps is your ego. Please tell me (cause the way you go on about it, it makes me feel that there would be one) the endless list of what you personally did as a community manager, cause again I saw nothing. But now when you have had enough you suddenly have a presence on Havoc.

We invited you to the build server. We had discussions and chats about the server, Where was your input on how to improve the map? as far as I see it you are not the "Former Community Manager" The only person who comes close is @JBentley694 with his Builder updates that he isn't obliged to do.

When you were staff you blamed the players, now your the player you blame the staff, where is your self-respect? Have some morals. At least when I was toxic I knew the blame didn't lie with those who spent hours trying to please a community impossible to please, instead I offered my modelling services and now look where we are.

Stop saying you know whats good for the server, especially because I didn't see these suggestions, observations and critiques when it was your actual job to point them out.

 

[JBentley694]

I am confused we have only had 3 maps. the 1.7 map which was a failure I agree, the TMD realism map which was ahead of its time and more to the fans and not the pvp players I agree and the current map which is only a few 100 blocks bigger then the 1.7 map.

 

[JBentley694]

I am confused we have only had 3 maps. the 1.7 map which was a failure I agree, the TMD realism map which was ahead of its time and more to the fans and not the pvp players I agree and the current map which is only a few 100 blocks bigger then the 1.7 map.

On and edited note the owners are not hard to find and communicate with on the staff team. One of them (Jacobs) works his rear end off trying to get Minewars out so people can stop pestering about and he works countless hours trying to fix the current issues for the server.

 

[mindblaster007]

You keep claiming out that you were the backbone of the staff team, but I see no change in how they operate since your departure. Don't turn this onto us builders, We have created great maps and put hours into them. The only thing currently bigger than the time we spent building maps is your ego. Please tell me (cause the way you go on about it, it makes me feel that there would be one) the endless list of what you personally did as a community manager, cause again I saw nothing. But now when you have had enough you suddenly have a presence on Havoc.

We invited you to the build server. We had discussions and chats about the server, Where was your input on how to improve the map? as far as I see it you are not the "Former Community Manager" The only person who comes close is @JBentley694 with his Builder updates that he isn't obliged to do.

When you were staff you blamed the players, now your the player you blame the staff, where is your self-respect? Have some morals. At least when I was toxic I knew the blame didn't lie with those who spent hours trying to please a community impossible to please, instead I offered my modelling services and now look where we are.

Stop saying you know whats good for the server, especially because I didn't see these suggestions, observations and critiques when it was your actual job to point them out.

You have a point...

 

[Handout]

You keep claiming out that you were the backbone of the staff team, but I see no change in how they operate since your departure. Don't turn this onto us builders, We have created great maps and put hours into them. The only thing currently bigger than the time we spent building maps is your ego. Please tell me (cause the way you go on about it, it makes me feel that there would be one) the endless list of what you personally did as a community manager, cause again I saw nothing. But now when you have had enough you suddenly have a presence on Havoc.

We invited you to the build server. We had discussions and chats about the server, Where was your input on how to improve the map? as far as I see it you are not the "Former Community Manager" The only person who comes close is @JBentley694 with his Builder updates that he isn't obliged to do.

When you were staff you blamed the players, now your the player you blame the staff, where is your self-respect? Have some morals. At least when I was toxic I knew the blame didn't lie with those who spent hours trying to please a community impossible to please, instead I offered my modelling services and now look where we are.

Stop saying you know whats good for the server, especially because I didn't see these suggestions, observations and critiques when it was your actual job to point them out.

You’re talking too a 16 year old, that thinks he’s the man. He bragged about, being guy who got people “where they’re today” when he demoted me lol, but now he’s just bashing his own co-staff team. It’s ridiculous and really doesn’t make any sense.

 

[Cat_Squirrel_Inc]

You’re talking too a 16 year old, that thinks he’s the man. He bragged about, being guy who got people “where they’re today” when he demoted me lol, but now he’s just bashing his own co-staff team. It’s ridiculous and really doesn’t make any sense.

What's funny is he isn't 16. He's a normie adult. Kinda funny ain't it

 

[Cat_Squirrel_Inc]

Please tell me (cause the way you go on about it, it makes me feel that there would be one) the endless list of what you personally did as a community manager, cause again I saw nothing. But now when you have had enough you suddenly have a presence on Havoc.

Nothing. I can attest to this. He was barely online, either. If anything, all he did was heckle us for doing something SLIGHTLY wrong. If you want deets, PM me on discord.

 

[PeachDAboss]

You keep claiming out that you were the backbone of the staff team, but I see no change in how they operate since your departure. Don't turn this onto us builders, We have created great maps and put hours into them. The only thing currently bigger than the time we spent building maps is your ego. Please tell me (cause the way you go on about it, it makes me feel that there would be one) the endless list of what you personally did as a community manager, cause again I saw nothing. But now when you have had enough you suddenly have a presence on Havoc.

We invited you to the build server. We had discussions and chats about the server, Where was your input on how to improve the map? as far as I see it you are not the "Former Community Manager" The only person who comes close is @JBentley694 with his Builder updates that he isn't obliged to do.

When you were staff you blamed the players, now your the player you blame the staff, where is your self-respect? Have some morals. At least when I was toxic I knew the blame didn't lie with those who spent hours trying to please a community impossible to please, instead I offered my modelling services and now look where we are.

Stop saying you know whats good for the server, especially because I didn't see these suggestions, observations and critiques when it was your actual job to point them out.

You didn't see me point them out because you were not, and will never be a Sr.Mod. I never blamed players, get off your high horse. I took up the job of Community Manager for a reason. One major thing I did while Community Manager is grew the twitter and did multiple successful giveaways. If you spent as much time building as you did trying to roast me on the forums, maybe we would have already gotten an updated minewars map. I came onto the build server twice, literally joking around. By the time I was allowed onto the build server, you all had the current map, which IMO is perfectly fine. I have self-respect. I wasn't the one banned for being a POS, was I?

Nothing. I can attest to this. He was barely online, either. If anything, all he did was heckle us for doing something SLIGHTLY wrong. If you want deets, PM me on discord.

The only thing worse than your horrid attitude is your lying. Still angry you got demoted?

You’re talking too a 16 year old, that thinks he’s the man. He bragged about, being guy who got people “where they’re today” when he demoted me lol, but now he’s just bashing his own co-staff team. It’s ridiculous and really doesn’t make any sense.

If you think you're so tough, why don't you comment on your main account TALOCO? I don't think I'm the man, far from it. I just know a thing or two more than you. One of those things I know is that you're an idiot. You got demoted for lying, still angry?

For the staff issues, lol.

What issues? Issues like you? You aren't staff - sorry to let you down.

 

[Handout]

If youthink you're so tough, why don't you comment on your main account TALOCO? I don't think I'm the man, far from it. I just know a thing or two more than you. One of those things I know is that you're an idiot. You got demoted for lying, still angry?

What did I lie about please tell me. You only demoted me because I made a joke that didnt even target a player. It was more targeted at the staff team since they cannot figure out how too screenshare. You, and I one other person knew what you told me. You really have big head for guy that advertised other servers for staff too play and not spend their time playing tmd.

You also didn’t read the ending of my post to well, probably only here because someone triggered you.