The Update issues: Explained and suggestions

[Mike_The_Turtle]

Where do i begin, the entire server update was a bit of a train wreck. Building errors, walkers spawning in odd places, the over modernization, the bugs of tp's, so much to discuss, so little time.

THE MINOR STUFF:

my biggest issues are honestly the bugs. Walkers spawn everywhere and it's too much, players have only sz's that are secure because of this bug and it puts a lot of players in danger, and makes rping and pvp a lot more difficult. Next is teleports/warps, tp's virtually don't work properly or glitch out entirely, this will be issues for players trying to locate their friends and may cause players in dangerous areas looking for a safe warp to be killed. This will (and already has) pissed off a lot of people. finally, the server spawn in's. Whenever you spawn into tmd-1 or 2, etc, you come across the kit characters that you can select for a kit. HOWEVER, what they don't tell you is you may not be in there because you died, you may have all of your stuff there and may just want some extra, well (this is from personal experience) if you select a kit, it clears your inventory. Say goodbye tier 4, say goodbye jugg armor and legends, now you got Glenn's machete and a speed boost, how lovely.

This also pisses me off, stuff like Oceanside is and junkyard are poorly textured, and junkyard looks almost luxurious! and hill top....HILLTOP, the walls seem rather rushed, and i can't discuss the inside because THE SWITCH FOR THE GATE IS MISSING, LA-DEE-FREAKING-DA. Alexandria is honestly the only place i consider commendable because there wasn't much change to it, see? THE MAP DOESN'T NEED RE-TEXTURE OR CHANGE.


THE BIG THING:

Look, i love TMD as much as the next guy, the expansive update made everything look so much better, allowed more detail to be put into the map and also allowed people to really have to think as they travel, but the problem was it was TOO long of traveling between places, like the 15 minute trip to Atlanta from Alexandria via A CAR. So that was the intention of this update, to compress everything and make travel more efficient for players. now, i have a question, the purpose of the update was cutting travel time, yes? so naturally you'd move the buildings closer, if everything is already relatively closer, WHY THE HELL DID YOU WASTE TIME RE-TEXTURING EVERY TOWN/SZ AND WASTING YOUR OWN TIME. Everyone was happy about the update, the only issue is that ya'll changed things that did not need to be changed, the buildings were fine, the textures were fine, everything was FINE, but you keep overcompensating with every update, you don't have to change the texture every time for the same towns, because then things get stressful and you rush it and everything winds up like Oceanside and junkyard, rushed and not well planned. You make changes that don't need to be there because it's an amazing server before hand.


SUGGESTION:

You had good intentions with the update, the problem is you went over the top with it, people wanted travel to be fixed, and mainly travel. So give them what they want, don't go crazy with it and especially don't rush it, this is just a bump and the server has hit them and will hit them in the future. This was just to get some things off my mind, so please don't get pissed off, just speaking my two-cents, this was more or less a rant lol.

 

[QueenMunchii]

@AdorableMikey
We had the update less than 24 hours ago. there still will be bugs and glitches. JunkYard and oceanside What do you mean by Poorly textured? And hilltop. There is a way in. We wanted everything realistic looking, and Hilltop in the show, doesn't have a way in, from the outside. So. yeah. There is away in through the tunnel system.
We had to resize things Due to lag. if we kept the building's from the larger map and put them in this current map. It'd be extremely laggy, Especially for older computers.
We re-textured To make things look more realistic, and to look like the buildings that you see in the show.

 

[BenGermann]

We're working on fixing the bugs, please be patient.

 

[Rang0D]

We get the bug and glitches, that's bound that happen. I agree with most of this though. Junkyard looks luxurious being under a heap of trash and all. Hilltop just doesn't look great at all. Oceanside got to much detail added to it. Plus interior all over the map looks way to modern for a apocalypse theme.

 

[Mike_The_Turtle]

@FaultyParachute exactley

 

[QueenMunchii]

We get the bug and glitches, that's bound that happen. I agree with most of this though. Junkyard looks luxurious being under a heap of trash and all. Hilltop just doesn't look great at all. Oceanside got to much detail added to it. Plus interior all over the map looks way to modern for a apocalypse theme.

In the show we never see what the interior of the junkyard looks like, So. Yeah.
Hilltop looks like how it looks in the show, if you look close enough.
Oceanside is Detailed, the players asked for more details if you dont remember.

 

[Mike_The_Turtle]

@Munchii and junkyard? as we said it looks more luxurious than alexandria

 

[Rang0D]

Even without knowing the junkyard's interior, it could've been more suited to the vibe of the exterior.

 

[Rang0D]

And yes, they asked for detail, but Oceanside has way to much of it.

 

[Rang0D]

Also, don't forget the item frame issue. Way to many item frames now. I get less fps than I did in the large Atlanta. (Don't get me wrong, Big Atlanta was My Favorite Atlanta so far).

 

[Al_Cool]

... Well I feel sad to introduce myself into a angry atmosphere. But I guess everyone are quite right or have a bit of the solution. So pleasure continue to develop this thread I feel it could help in a good way! Also I don't know if people would like me to say that, but I mostly think decoration details, bugs and game's mechanic would be kept updated with small fix, in the next months. Also, I don't think others servers would be left for against; for any reason.

 

[Firelillx]

I don't get this "junkyard is luxurious" crap a few of yall keep saying. To me it looks like the Sanctuary on the inside. I mean, while the people don't appear to be completely clean, they also do not look like they sleep in a pile of junk. Some are even cleaner than Rick, and given where they live, it suggests that the inside of their home is not quite as dirty as the outside. Saying the interior is luxurious makes it seem like you are overreacting and dramatizing the situation, because let's face it. It is not luxurious.

Could they have "junked" it up inside more? Sure. But honestly, those are very small details that can be ignored if you look at the overall picture.

I get yall being upset because of all of the glitches and bugs. They will get fixed if you are patient though. Just give it time and give the new map a chance. The last map was not efficient, like you said. If you watched the videos they made, the buildings were oversized and would look strange unless they rebuilt them. Believe it or not, the builders were trying to help the server, not destroy it. In addition, from a building standpoint, a lot of the builds are more accurate and run down. To me, it feels more like the walking dead now. The last map had so many unfinished areas, while this one feels more complete than the last.

Forgive me if you feel like this is an attack. I don't mean for it to be. I was on the server last night exploring in TMD3 because I wanted to avoid getting shot down by jug people. All I heard was people being extremely rude and complaining over and over again over small details. It just seems silly to me that people are mad that Hilltop has less rooms. Calling an entire map trash because of small details that were intended to make the server feel more realistic, seems kinda sad. The last Hilltop was not even good. You couldn't even get on the roof and there was an unrealistic amount of rooms.

Unfortunately for some people, most of the server wants a better map for PvP. If you don't like it, my suggestion is to get good at building and apply for the team. Then maybe you can put more rp things into the server. Or you guys (the people complaining), could be more constructive and give the map more than 48 hours before having meltdowns. Offer solutions or suggestions for things to be fixed if you really want change. Complaining all over the server and on the forums makes you look bad.

I'm sure I will get an attack in return, but honestly this has to stop. Be grateful you have a server that is willing to put so much effort into trying to make people happy. I'm not trying to be mean to you, so please don't take it that way. I just ask yall calm down and give it a chance. Thanks.

 

[ArmenTheHeli]

I don't get this "junkyard is luxurious" crap a few of yall keep saying. To me it looks like the Sanctuary on the inside. I mean, while the people don't appear to be completely clean, they also do not look like they sleep in a pile of junk. Some are even cleaner than Rick, and given where they live, it suggests that the inside of their home is not quite as dirty as the outside. Saying the interior is luxurious makes it seem like you are overreacting and dramatizing the situation, because let's face it. It is not luxurious.

Could they have "junked" it up inside more? Sure. But honestly, those are very small details that can be ignored if you look at the overall picture.

I get yall being upset because of all of the glitches and bugs. They will get fixed if you are patient though. Just give it time and give the new map a chance. The last map was not efficient, like you said. If you watched the videos they made, the buildings were oversized and would look strange unless they rebuilt them. Believe it or not, the builders were trying to help the server, not destroy it. In addition, from a building standpoint, a lot of the builds are more accurate and run down. To me, it feels more like the walking dead now. The last map had so many unfinished areas, while this one feels more complete than the last.

Forgive me if you feel like this is an attack. I don't mean for it to be. I was on the server last night exploring in TMD3 because I wanted to avoid getting shot down by jug people. All I heard was people being extremely rude and complaining over and over again over small details. It just seems silly to me that people are mad that Hilltop has less rooms. Calling an entire map trash because of small details that were intended to make the server feel more realistic, seems kinda sad. The last Hilltop was not even good. You couldn't even get on the roof and there was an unrealistic amount of rooms.

Unfortunately for some people, most of the server wants a better map for PvP. If you don't like it, my suggestion is to get good at building and apply for the team. Then maybe you can put more rp things into the server. Or you guys (the people complaining), could be more constructive and give the map more than 48 hours before having meltdowns. Offer solutions or suggestions for things to be fixed if you really want change. Complaining all over the server and on the forums makes you look bad.

I'm sure I will get an attack in return, but honestly this has to stop. Be grateful you have a server that is willing to put so much effort into trying to make people happy. I'm not trying to be mean to you, so please don't take it that way. I just ask yall calm down and give it a chance. Thanks.

I just wanna point out that saying stuff on forums about suggestions hasn't had a good record of being used. If anyone has an idea, your better off messaging the staff directly (If it's a map related thing, message a builder. If it's code related, message an owner or dev. If it's meme related, message me on here or my discord)

 

[Al_Cool]

I'ld like meme^^ As for the rest, Armed I agree with you! That's why we have support ticket for!

As for suggestion on the forum not being used, I can only disagree, because for the staff and time they use, I feel like every staff and even owner have done more than their parts! Everything would not be perfect; especially 48h after a downgrade from 1.9 to 1.8! Keep in mind that staff have to re-write most if not all the code, just because of the differences between versions!

Note : Thk Firelillx Your reply give me hope in humanity... just kidding . I really appreciate reading it!

 

[Shallowing]

well, you see many players were getting mad at the fact that the update was getting pushed back so the staff members were under stress. Try looking on the bright side of things, you have a nice server to play on yeah you and some players aren't gonna like it but it's still an amazing server. And on the pvp side the only thing that I don't like about the new update firstly is the spas, when you shoot it... it does not even do enough damage to kill a walker first shot, and when you shoot it you can't see the bullets like at all so you don't know where you're shooting really. The black dust that comes out kinda cool which I kinda liked. Also, tpa... the cool down is insane 5m is to long maybe reduce it to like 2m or 1min 30sec. But anyway I love the map ^-^ and everything else is amazing

 

[PhoenixOfDreams]

OH FER THE LOVE OF NICKK_!

The builders, which, let's be honest, there are only about 14 of them, have been trying their hardest to build a 6000 x 6000 map (Which, they revamped from 8000 x 8000 mind you) . Sure, it can take a while, but that kind of needed co-ordination and skill to make that size of a map is complete insanity. And don't forget the factor of stress and real life issues as well. And plus, it isn't just The Mining Dead. There are other games too with possibly new maps coming up. I understand that there can be flaws, but what the staff of The Mining Dead can do is truly amazing compared to any other group. HavocMC never ceases to amaze me, and they're not some 13 year-worth-of-experience Badasses who can finish the map by themselves no sweat, and I am fairly certain that they're still pretty young. It's really an inspiration of what they do.

 

[Al_Cool]

About Builder's work... I have tried to reproduce buildings using minecraft and world editor and ended up learning that most of the lever door's system who looks realist, work using command's blocks... That mean, every moves are send by command's lines!

Just for a simple red stone door, completing one using a video as guide is a challenge by itself. Learning how to fix problems included onto that same video is really hard! So yeah I'm sure builders have worked their ***, on the new map, on pvp skins, on blocks textures, and on 3D textures as well!

Also note that the server have downgraded from 1.9, to 1.8 by a Mojang mistake who create a less stable environment on 1.9! All the simplest lines of commands have probably being rewrites, because of differences between version, and http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Commands#History

Somehow, looks like staff and owner try to compensation, for Mojang mistake who looked like if the server will lose players, caused by instability issue. So hell yeah! They have read a few players suggestions, and how many time they accepted to push back, delay the update? As a reminder, HAVOC try to make money, so I'm sure they would not plan moved who would make them lose players! Delay's was required, and bug to fix is probably impossible to prevent. So for the rest, I'l be patient!

Edit : typos mistakes

 

[QueenMunchii]

@PhoenixOfDreams You Are officially the Man. Thankyou for you're post. it's awesome to read some nice things on here. @Al_Cool Thankyou For Being Patient not alot of people are!