Unban Mangled!

[Montu151]

Hello everyone, this is PandaPacca. I just watched declans latest video, and i want to help declan and mangled. Mangled was banned for telling a speed and kill aura hacker that he was going to ddos him. Immediately after, he said jk. Mangled was then muted for a day. The next day, he logged on and it said he was perm banned. he has waited 7 months, and nothing. Now lets look at another player. Yeurly. He went and downloaded a hacked client with the intent of causing trouble to the server. He was perm banned for kill aura hacking. A month later, he gets unbanned and hacks again. Then he gets banned again. THEN, he came on with an alt to hack some more. All Mangled did was make an empty threat as a joke, and he was perm banned. If you look at the rules for threats, it doesnt say that is a perm ban. It says at the most a 1 month ban. And thats at the most. If yeurly had the intent to hack on the server, and he got unbanned, why shouldnt mangled get unbanned? After all, he just said "Im gonna ddos you" or something then said "jk" right after.

I am doing this for you declan mostly. I liked mangled, but this is mostly for you since he was your friend and i dont know mangled that well. Best of luck Mangled!

#FreeFury

 

[Montu151]

ignore those attatchments

 

[Kanyay]

https://havocmc.net/threads/the-mangledfury-situation-dupers.668/

I was told by one of the owners that he has ban evaded, hacked on alts, abused glitches...

 

[DDENGAR]

Hell no man

 

[Katitude]

Hopefully I'd be able to clear one thing with saying Mangled wasn't only banned because of his ddoss threats; this was the only thing mentioned near the end of the video. MangledFury was banned after the ddoss threat, though he was also hacking on multiple accounts by a website to receive more alts and hacked afterwards; with all due respect to Mangled, that's what I call an 18 year old tantrum because someone couldn't hold their tongue properly. In terms of what is called the bribery incident, I just checked in on that situation, and from that, I concur Mangled wasn't supposed to be unbanned at the time, and a staff member who was speaking to MangledFury claimed they didn't accept the bribe and unbanned Mangled thinking he should be unbanned, though as stated, MangledFury wasn't ready for an unban that would've happened in the future if good behaviour continued; I would also be disgusted if that staff member accepted the bribe, which they didn't. When you mentioned the belief of staff being bias, I believe the more appropriate decision would be to report those sort of concerns to me or another staff member and I will ensure you that I will take your issues seriously. I will take time to evaluate staff behaviour and report anything I believe needs to be changed. I recall you combined your concerns with being bias to being screen shared. Please don't think we are targeting or assuming a player is hacking for being on a large team, as we get reports from random individuals all across the server, as well as people we know. With that being said, we also roam across the servers to moderate and catch hackers, we will first watch a player, then screen share then in rare cases. I never go through personal information with respect to your privacy, but I would go through files that could contain evidence for having a hack client. If your appeal doesn't have a response after a staff member said they'd handle it, you are allowed to kindly remind us; I will forget about appeals as well, which I've been working on. As a final note, when players riot for people to be unbanned such as Mangled, I'd advise people to please stop doing that on the server and the forums as that won't alter Mangled's chance of being unbanned. I also find some people in general don't care for rioting and they don't want a mass attention grab from a swarm of players. I hope I covered each topic for you all, and please message me privately if there is anything you need, or would like to address to me.

Yours Kindly,
~Katitude <3

 

[Montu151]

Hopefully I'd be able to clear one thing with saying Mangled wasn't only banned because of his ddoss threats; this was the only thing mentioned near the end of the video. MangledFury was banned after the ddoss threat, though he was also hacking on multiple accounts by a website to receive more alts and hacked afterwards; with all due respect to Mangled, that's what I call an 18 year old tantrum because someone couldn't hold their tongue properly. In terms of what is called the bribery incident, I just checked in on that situation, and from that, I concur Mangled wasn't supposed to be unbanned at the time, and a staff member who was speaking to MangledFury claimed they didn't accept the bribe and unbanned Mangled thinking he should be unbanned, though as stated, MangledFury wasn't ready for an unban that would've happened in the future if good behaviour continued; I would also be disgusted if that staff member accepted the bribe, which they didn't. When you mentioned the belief of staff being bias, I believe the more appropriate decision would be to report those sort of concerns to me or another staff member and I will ensure you that I will take your issues seriously. I will take time to evaluate staff behaviour and report anything I believe needs to be changed. I recall you combined your concerns with being bias to being screen shared. Please don't think we are targeting or assuming a player is hacking for being on a large team, as we get reports from random individuals all across the server, as well as people we know. With that being said, we also roam across the servers to moderate and catch hackers, we will first watch a player, then screen share then in rare cases. I never go through personal information with respect to your privacy, but I would go through files that could contain evidence for having a hack client. If your appeal doesn't have a response after a staff member said they'd handle it, you are allowed to kindly remind us; I will forget about appeals as well, which I've been working on. As a final note, when players riot for people to be unbanned such as Mangled, I'd advise people to please stop doing that on the server and the forums as that won't alter Mangled's chance of being unbanned. I also find some people in general don't care for rioting and they don't want a mass attention grab from a swarm of players. I hope I covered each topic for you all, and please message me privately if there is anything you need, or would like to address to me.

Yours Kindly,
~Katitude <3

Ok, maybe he hacked. But, that doesnt change much. His punishment was randomly changed for no reason one day later. Also, you didnt mention anything about yeurly. He was worse then mangled. He hacked just to cause problems, got banned, got unbanned, and hacked more. Then when he got banned again. magically a new alt with the immortal rank appears that also hacks. And he will be back, mark my words. Mangled hacked in fury (No pun intended) Yeurly hacked to get revenge/get more gear.

#FreeFury
#Justice4Fury

 

[BenGermann]

As already stated MangledFury will not be unbanned due to him ban evading and hacking on alts a numerous amount of times. The owners themselves have stated that he will not be unbanned, so that decision is final. He could possibly be unbanned at a much later date, but there is no chance of an unban at this time.

 

[Katitude]

Ok, maybe he hacked. But, that doesnt change much.

Please re-read this comment.

His punishment was randomly changed for no reason one day later.

It was changed as he wasn't supposed to be unbanned, meaning it wasn't random.

Also, you didnt mention anything about yeurly. He was worse then mangled.

Yeurly happened to be another incorrect unban, as we do make mistakes. Furthermore, comparing him to someone else only makes it seem that you're trying to convince people that MangledFury's actions are less severe because someone else has also broken the rules. Yeurly used an unallowed hack client, and hacked on his alt as well, though said he should be unbanned because it wasn't on his main. When he was unbanned, he was later rebanned, though I forgot if he hacked after or not. I don't see Yeurly's situation worse, though any case of breaking the rules on our server is serious. Due to how many rules Mangled has broken, along with other complications, I don't see him being unbanned anytime soon.

And he will be back, mark my words. Mangled hacked in fury (No pun intended) Yeurly hacked to get revenge/get more gear.

He hacked just to cause problems, got banned, got unbanned, and hacked more.

This is MangledFury with a more serious case, and we banned him instantly after he was accidentally unbanned; MangledFury's case is more severe, and this may appear bias to some individuals. Comparing Yeurly to Mangled isn't going to alter his ban, and Yeurly will definitely remain banned, though I wouldn't say Yeurly dealt more damage to the server and its people.

 

[_VC_]

I obviously have no power here, but I honestly wouldn't really mind if he was unbanned. People have been unbanned for worse and I honestly think he brought a very good vibe to TMD. Now I'm not talking about all the chat offenses, but thats just me, the scrolling words in minecraft chat doesn't really get to me like it does most people. The good TMD vibe I'm talkin about is the wars, and the intensity that I feel has been lost from TMD. Whenever Mangled was on everyone was gearing up ready for some insane battle somewhere. That's the kinda stuff about TMD that everyone loves. I think he brought a lot of TMD players together though his videos. Ever since he was banned he hasn't stopped trying to get unbanned and he won't stop. From that I can see that he really loves this server, and his large TMD fanbase will listen to whatever he says. Haven't you guys noticed that the past like 7 months it's been basically everyone vs the staff. No matter how hard we work to make this server what you want, we're still shamed and yelled at and insulted all the h*cking time. Idk. I feel if Mangled comes back, a lot of people will come with him. I'm in no position to make these choices but I would unban him and watch him very closely. If anything and I mean ANYTHING happens, that's it. It's over and he's never getting unbanned again. Idk it's probably just me, I like giving people 2nd chances. (3rd in this case). All I see in Mangled is a dude who really loves TMD. And I can relate to that, and I really like making stuff for the people who love TMD so I kinda just naturally feel for him. But idk it's not up to me, if everything he did was really that bad and deserves a permanent sentence without a last chance then so be it. But yeah thats my thoughts.

 

[Montu151]

Please re-read this comment.

It was changed as he wasn't supposed to be unbanned, meaning it wasn't random.

Yeurly happened to be another incorrect unban, as we do make mistakes. Furthermore, comparing him to someone else only makes it seem that you're trying to convince people that MangledFury's actions are less severe because someone else has also broken the rules. Yeurly used an unallowed hack client, and hacked on his alt as well, though said he should be unbanned because it wasn't on his main. When he was unbanned, he was later rebanned, though I forgot if he hacked after or not. I don't see Yeurly's situation worse, though any case of breaking the rules on our server is serious. Due to how many rules Mangled has broken, along with other complications, I don't see him being unbanned anytime soon.


This is MangledFury with a more serious case, and we banned him instantly after he was accidentally unbanned; MangledFury's case is more severe, and this may appear bias to some individuals. Comparing Yeurly to Mangled isn't going to alter his ban, and Yeurly will definitely remain banned, though I wouldn't say Yeurly dealt more damage to the server and its people.

Your not going to stop me. I will keep fighting for Mangled. The staff system is corrupt. I got perm muted in february from warns in january. New month should equal a new chance, but you randomly checked me and out of no where muted me....

#FreeFury

 

[Montu151]

I obviously have no power here, but I honestly wouldn't really mind if he was unbanned. People have been unbanned for worse and I honestly think he brought a very good vibe to TMD. Now I'm not talking about all the chat offenses, but thats just me, the scrolling words in minecraft chat doesn't really get to me like it does most people. The good TMD vibe I'm talkin about is the wars, and the intensity that I feel has been lost from TMD. Whenever Mangled was on everyone was gearing up ready for some insane battle somewhere. That's the kinda stuff about TMD that everyone loves. I think he brought a lot of TMD players together though his videos. Ever since he was banned he hasn't stopped trying to get unbanned and he won't stop. From that I can see that he really loves this server, and his large TMD fanbase will listen to whatever he says. Haven't you guys noticed that the past like 7 months it's been basically everyone vs the staff. No matter how hard we work to make this server what you want, we're still shamed and yelled at and insulted all the h*cking time. Idk. I feel if Mangled comes back, a lot of people will come with him. I'm in no position to make these choices but I would unban him and watch him very closely. If anything and I mean ANYTHING happens, that's it. It's over and he's never getting unbanned again. Idk it's probably just me, I like giving people 2nd chances. (3rd in this case). All I see in Mangled is a dude who really loves TMD. And I can relate to that, and I really like making stuff for the people who love TMD so I kinda just naturally feel for him. But idk it's not up to me, if everything he did was really that bad and deserves a permanent sentence without a last chance then so be it. But yeah thats my thoughts.

Declan, Bigmike, Jahango, and more youtubers can have a huge effect on the server. Lots of people from our server watch him. If they suddenly decide that TMD sucks, they can make video rants and stuff. Mangled and batman have falled, soon others will to and they will get angry for the corrupt staff. Yeurly did much worse. I think that a 7 month ban is long enough. Yeurly has been banned twice for kill aura, then he hacked on an alt. We should give Mangled another oppertunity. He hasnt been able to play since way before the reset.

 

[Montu151]

As already stated MangledFury will not be unbanned due to him ban evading and hacking on alts a numerous amount of times. The owners themselves have stated that he will not be unbanned, so that decision is final. He could possibly be unbanned at a much later date, but there is no chance of an unban at this time.

so seven months isnt enough? He has been gone way before the reset. I think that he should be given another chance. Nasty got magically unmuted after reset, and a few players got unbanned. He hacked because he was pissed at the bad ban. It shouldnt have been this long

 

[Montu151]

What mangled did was bad, i agree on that. What im saying is that people have done worse, and i belive that he deserves another chance. Im sorry if my opinion sounded rude, but i miss mangled. He was a good guy while he was here

 

[Katitude]

so seven months isnt enough? He has been gone way before the reset. I think that he should be given another chance. Nasty got magically unmuted after reset, and a few players got unbanned. He hacked because he was pissed at the bad ban. It shouldnt have been this long

If he was upset, he shouldn't have broken just about every rule we have, including forum rules. In this case, I would say no.

What mangled did was bad, i agree on that. What im saying is that people have done worse

I believe the only person who has done worse is Exo. I'm sorry, but Mangled will have to wait a while.

 

[Jahango]

with all due respect to Mangled, that's what I call an 18 year old tantrum because someone couldn't hold their tongue properly.

EH! Maybe he doesn't want his age released!!@!# and i'm pretty sure staff hasn't been able to "hold their tongue properly" and guess what you told me .. "everyone has a slip" so..?

 

[_Nickk]

Allow me to explain our reasoning.

Our main reason for keeping Mangled perm banned is the alts and ban evasion. A quick search through our database shows the following:

From September 23rd to the 26th, the following 25 accounts were banned for being alts of MangledFury. They were hacking.

Spoiler: Banned Alts

4Pacca
MeggieGamerYT
Pu_Qi
BananaManJosh
101Buddergod
extremedawg7
snowingflower
sebseb5009
wowboy1227
dopedeadshot26
imadjinari
DiamondCraftBR03
Swemiii
MMOMichael
SkyeKnight
GamergirlKacy132
Treydaboss20
V0dk4_LimaoSeco
Braidn
BloodBlueGaming
BIG___C
scoobdoob25
AllieKat39
Hannafox
Jman1105

Also, on August 12th, the account RooneyAtom was banned for ban evasion of a different ban of Mangled Fury. Lastly, CaptainBlaze15 was banned on October 12th for being an alt of Mangled.

That is 26 accounts, and if I looked into it further, there would likely be more. We usually have hackers wait at least a month to be unbanned, if not longer. He hacked minimum 26 times. It's been around 6 months, so that's at least 20 more months, not to mention the posting **** on our website and ban evading. Plus an additional 3 or more days for DDoS threats.

I understand a lot of people want him unbanned, and had more fun when he was unbanned, but I don't think it is fair to anybody that is waiting out their ban if they see Mangled online with 30 or so bans.


Edit: Yuerly was unbanned by a staff member who wasn't informed at the time, and as soon as I found out, I re-banned him.

 

[ArmenTheHeli]

I don't get why this thread is so popular. Mangled hacked 26 people's accounts, which I think is $20 per account, which is over $400 In stolen accounts... and quick question to staff, what does "screen share" do? like I know it sows the other persons screen, but is it an app or something?

 

[J58_]

Nick, this is why Mangled wanted to talk to you 1 on 1 for months, there is so much confusion with some of the alts and everything that is going on, as well as the bribing, he needs to explain himself to you and clear some stuff up, please can you let him talk to you for just 5 minutes, please.

 

[_Nickk]

Nick, this is why Mangled wanted to talk to you 1 on 1 for months, there is so much confusion with some of the alts and everything that is going on, as well as the bribing, he needs to explain himself to you and clear some stuff up, please can you let him talk to you for just 5 minutes, please.

Why didn't he explain himself in the video instead of lying and enraging a lot of community members who won't ever see the truth.

 

[J58_]

What did he even lie about exactly??????????