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    DDENGAR

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    DDENGAR
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    Hello there hoomans!

    This is an idea that I have be contemplating for an awful long time which as far as I remember is actually a mix of previous ideas that could possibly "fix" or "MakeTMDGreatAgain". I have thought out this idea excessively and is hoping the community will like what am I proposing that may possibly change this once religiously played server. Please if you have the time read it thoroughly since I am proposing something a bit horrendous...

    Back to the Compromise Conception:

    I am going to need to split this post up into multiple threads since I am generally talking about the TMD server and there are specifics and if I placed it on one thread, this thread will become off-topic in no time. Sorry!

    Okay, this first one is for the bois who want wars and Old TMD Players who all decided to quit or take a break.

    The idea is that TMD should be split back into TMDOP and TMD "Realism" or Hardcore. TMD Hardcore will be spoken about in the next post which I will be putting more information about soon. Now why are many people unsatisfied with the updates and the maps being rebuilt all the time? Oh, this is a really easy answer for some of us since it's so obvious. People who enjoyed Old TMD never wanted any of the updates! Wow! never thought of that, right? The general problem mostly with updates in my opinion is that the Old TMD mechanics and PVP is slowly disappearing and being changed with rapid updates that nobody has really a say about since it's generally kept a secret and not exactly beta-tested by actual players and more by people on the staff team. But then staff members are going to hit me with that: "Hey man! I'm a player too!" Well, you are correct! But you are the wrong person to test these things since you are more then a player! Beta-testing or updating things which change a lot of PVP aspects will always have some sort of backlash, every single game has them! So staff, if you want to sob about people bullying you, it is well deserved...because you signed up to deal with these kids! And Staff should be more professional and have the right emotions to deal with angry customers! If you make a mistake, fix yourself, not hide it away or deny it! ****, I'm talking about staff too much, I should back that down and talk bout it in depth in another post.

    TMD should be split because of the general community complaints. It should also be beta-tested too so nobody can complain about bugs or needed hotfixes. I feel if they brought back TMDOP there will be more wars, which leads to more players who "quit" returning back, which leads to a boost into more players coming back to TMD. Bandwagon is actually a very effective strategy into attracting people to play or do something inside society. Heck, the majority of the old teams who warred were mostly made up of people who only played TMD for the wars! They never really came on for another event! When wars were depleted into people who are not really good at wars and spam chat everyday to take down like a one guy team, nobody bothered to contribute towards these wars, and they all died.

    Another thing to consider is the constant updates that some people seem to feel that there is why they started to quit hoping that their boycott will do something...which they actually accomplished something but now they are back at it again...(will continue in another post sorry!) Some people have expressed deeply about how some of the updates are bad and some of them are okay to live with. But please don't immediately change the updates as well...

    Alrighty, sorry for keeping y'all waiting since I seem to be rambling on and on about random stuff that connect to each other in a random way, I will seriously this time only talk about TMDOP and some hotfixes that should be established in order for everyone to enjoy it.

    This is pretty simple in some sort of a way: Why do people enjoy wars? Is it the reward? The thrill of killing multiple opponents? How people will continue to come out either naked, riot, or back in full jugg to try to get their gear back? Or is it all of those things that make the wars fun and exciting that is sorta robbed from us now since no one wants to war against four people full jugg that keep spamming: War at CDC, full Jugg!


    TMDOP should be reopened into a beta-test server and eventually into a official server. @Builders, ah that doesn't work, we should think about the creation of a new map as well(I fully understand what y'all are thinking) but a map with almost no or minimal "details" as possible since these players play this server for the sole purpose for PVP. I feel that buildings should be revamped into the old Atlanta style and size where buildings are not giant like realistic skyscrapers but mostly short/medium small builds of buildings with multiple routes in and out. The Safezones can stay I guess but with less detail on the outside...Generally I am begging the builders, if ya'll are down to a new challenge to build us the old tmd map that would be revamped into focusing on the PVP aspect. I actually would personally like to suggest to add other builds that y'all feel can contribute to the map for PVP purposes, such as water warfare (build some battleships or ships @Rejante ) and easter eggs since you all deserve to put some easter eggs in there that nobody gets, except you)

    These below are solely the revamps or changes which I strongly suggest that should be implemented:

    The very first, is buffing the loot and removing to lower tiers in the server in order for TMDOP to fulfill the "OP" part of the server. The lower tiered gear literally are almost useless when it comes to PVP, nobody is going to use anything lower then a M14 in a war(Sorry I meant Barrett) since anything lower will get you killed very quickly. Remove Tier 2 weapons(Excluding the specials and LMGs), keep the armor riot and above, remove the gear that would be deemed useless such as a Hoe to PVP and replace them with items that can be tested in the use for PVP such as attachments...(Will continue on another thread)

    Secondly, revamping the kits and ranks, which may be more important for TMDOP so that newbies can have a chance. The kits below rank Hardcore or I guess Champion(Maybe?) are based on the Walking Dead series which out of honesty have not much of a benefit when it comes to playing for PVP and a revamping I suppose is needed solely if there will have a server focused on PVP. I further on what types of kits/ranks could be changed if people are willing to give TMDOP a try...(I will continue on another thread)

    Another important thing to point out is that certain PVP updates and changes should stay implemented sometimes due to the fact that it gets extremely stale if PVP is focused only on tanking or how good is your autoclicking... painkillers **** me off when you can freaking tank your way out of 5 people blasting you with bullets just because your wearing jugg and have ten stacks of pains to inhale... Hacking is another issue due to how competitive our TMD playerbase is when it comes to PVP...(Continued on another thread)

    Finally, just a good reminder to certain players of our community: Please stop thinking that you own this server. Some of these problems have been persistent due to certain individuals who in some cases, literally ruin the gameplay and community. Get off your high horse before I drag your arrogant **** off...

    Well, This thread will need some good freetime for some reading to do, please read through this and be open for the fact that even if the server bends back to the sometimes self-claimed OG players, this server wouldn't necessarily grow after their demands are furfilled...
     

    DDENGAR

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    DDENGAR
    DDENGAR DDENGAR

    DDENGAR

    Mythical
    DDENGAR
    DDENGAR DDENGAR
    @DDENGAR bb you should just post all the "seperate thread" posts as posts under this one
    Thanks for the reply mate, but if I put everything down under this one thread, there will be too much to put in, I only touched skin deep of some of my TMDOP ideas, I still have many ideas/suggestions for TMD hardcore and more suggestions and reworkings ;-; (plus it will become off-topic if I put everything down under one post)

    yEs i'm 2Lily and thread is so long xD what i read really nice idea, I completely agree with what i saw :):
    Thank You :)
     

    Captain_xWolf

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    Captain_Furno Captain_Furno
    I’m important! :D

    So after reading your Old Testament of the Bible (happy Easter btw), I have a few things to say.

    1: TMD-OP ) What is there more to say? I completely agree with your ideas. Ever since TMD-OP was removed, I think quite some people lost the sense of adrenaline when they went back to normal TMD. Mix that with unexpected updates and many players left. TMD-OP was discussed in a forum post made by @ChlngeAccepted . If you haven’t read it, you can find it here where I took part in the thread, sharing my thoughts.

    2: Updates ) We’ve had some bumps in the road when it comes to TMD and updates. Fortunetaly, Staff has acknowledged problems and has done their best to fix or adjust said problems. Currently, builders have been working hard on ( how @2Suicidal likes to call it ) the Savannah Update. Now, we are informed and aware of what is going to happen (which, for once, I am hyped for). If you wish to know more, you can find the post
    here (made by @JBentley694 ) and here (by @JBentley694 and @Kyritic )

    3: Staff ) As far as Helpers/Staff online, they’ve done an O.K. job in my experiences for the most part. You’ve touched on it very lightly, so I will share further when I see your New Testament.

    - xWolf_Gunslinger
     
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    DDENGAR

    Mythical
    DDENGAR
    DDENGAR DDENGAR
    I’m important! :D

    So after reading your Old Testament of the Bible (happy Easter btw), I have a few things to say.

    1: TMD-OP ) What is there more to say? I completely agree with your ideas. Ever since TMD-OP was removed, I think quite some people lost the sense of adrenaline when they went back to normal TMD. Mix that with unexpected updates and many players left. TMD-OP was discussed in a forum post made by @ChlngeAccepted . If you haven’t read it, you can find it here where I took part of the thread, sharing my thoughts.

    2: Updates ) We’ve had some bumps in the road when it comes to TMD and updates. Fortunetaly, Staff has acknowledged problems and has done their best to fix or adjust said problems. Currently, builders have been working hard on ( how @2Suicidal likes to call it ) the Savannah Update. Now, we are informed and aware of what is going to happen (which, for once, I am hyped for). If you wish to know more, you can find the post
    here (made by @JBentley694 ) and here (by @JBentley694 and @Kyritic )

    3: Staff ) As far as Helpers/Staff online, they’ve done an O.K. job in my experiences for the most part. You’ve touched on it very lightly, so I will share further when I see your New Testament.

    - xWolf_Gunslinger
    Thanks for the quality feedback!:D The only thing that concerns me is that if people are down for this to become implemented...and if the builders are willing to create another map for PVP...
     

    49ersfan77

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    49ersfan77
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    Hello there hoomans!

    This is an idea that I have be contemplating for an awful long time which as far as I remember is actually a mix of previous ideas that could possibly "fix" or "MakeTMDGreatAgain". I have thought out this idea excessively and is hoping the community will like what am I proposing that may possibly change this once religiously played server. Please if you have the time read it thoroughly since I am proposing something a bit horrendous...

    Back to the Compromise Conception:

    I am going to need to split this post up into multiple threads since I am generally talking about the TMD server and there are specifics and if I placed it on one thread, this thread will become off-topic in no time. Sorry!

    Okay, this first one is for the bois who want wars and Old TMD Players who all decided to quit or take a break.

    The idea is that TMD should be split back into TMDOP and TMD "Realism" or Hardcore. TMD Hardcore will be spoken about in the next post which I will be putting more information about soon. Now why are many people unsatisfied with the updates and the maps being rebuilt all the time? Oh, this is a really easy answer for some of us since it's so obvious. People who enjoyed Old TMD never wanted any of the updates! Wow! never thought of that, right? The general problem mostly with updates in my opinion is that the Old TMD mechanics and PVP is slowly disappearing and being changed with rapid updates that nobody has really a say about since it's generally kept a secret and not exactly beta-tested by actual players and more by people on the staff team. But then staff members are going to hit me with that: "Hey man! I'm a player too!" Well, you are correct! But you are the wrong person to test these things since you are more then a player! Beta-testing or updating things which change a lot of PVP aspects will always have some sort of backlash, every single game has them! So staff, if you want to sob about people bullying you, it is well deserved...because you signed up to deal with these kids! And Staff should be more professional and have the right emotions to deal with angry customers! If you make a mistake, fix yourself, not hide it away or deny it! ****, I'm talking about staff too much, I should back that down and talk bout it in depth in another post.

    TMD should be split because of the general community complaints. It should also be beta-tested too so nobody can complain about bugs or needed hotfixes. I feel if they brought back TMDOP there will be more wars, which leads to more players who "quit" returning back, which leads to a boost into more players coming back to TMD. Bandwagon is actually a very effective strategy into attracting people to play or do something inside society. Heck, the majority of the old teams who warred were mostly made up of people who only played TMD for the wars! They never really came on for another event! When wars were depleted into people who are not really good at wars and spam chat everyday to take down like a one guy team, nobody bothered to contribute towards these wars, and they all died.

    Another thing to consider is the constant updates that some people seem to feel that there is why they started to quit hoping that their boycott will do something...which they actually accomplished something but now they are back at it again...(will continue in another post sorry!) Some people have expressed deeply about how some of the updates are bad and some of them are okay to live with. But please don't immediately change the updates as well...

    Alrighty, sorry for keeping y'all waiting since I seem to be rambling on and on about random stuff that connect to each other in a random way, I will seriously this time only talk about TMDOP and some hotfixes that should be established in order for everyone to enjoy it.

    This is pretty simple in some sort of a way: Why do people enjoy wars? Is it the reward? The thrill of killing multiple opponents? How people will continue to come out either naked, riot, or back in full jugg to try to get their gear back? Or is it all of those things that make the wars fun and exciting that is sorta robbed from us now since no one wants to war against four people full jugg that keep spamming: War at CDC, full Jugg!


    TMDOP should be reopened into a beta-test server and eventually into a official server. @Builders, ah that doesn't work, we should think about the creation of a new map as well(I fully understand what y'all are thinking) but a map with almost no or minimal "details" as possible since these players play this server for the sole purpose for PVP. I feel that buildings should be revamped into the old Atlanta style and size where buildings are not giant like realistic skyscrapers but mostly short/medium small builds of buildings with multiple routes in and out. The Safezones can stay I guess but with less detail on the outside...Generally I am begging the builders, if ya'll are down to a new challenge to build us the old tmd map that would be revamped into focusing on the PVP aspect. I actually would personally like to suggest to add other builds that y'all feel can contribute to the map for PVP purposes, such as water warfare (build some battleships or ships @Rejante ) and easter eggs since you all deserve to put some easter eggs in there that nobody gets, except you)

    These below are solely the revamps or changes which I strongly suggest that should be implemented:

    The very first, is buffing the loot and removing to lower tiers in the server in order for TMDOP to fulfill the "OP" part of the server. The lower tiered gear literally are almost useless when it comes to PVP, nobody is going to use anything lower then a M14 in a war(Sorry I meant Barrett) since anything lower will get you killed very quickly. Remove Tier 2 weapons(Excluding the specials and LMGs), keep the armor riot and above, remove the gear that would be deemed useless such as a Hoe to PVP and replace them with items that can be tested in the use for PVP such as attachments...(Will continue on another thread)

    Secondly, revamping the kits and ranks, which may be more important for TMDOP so that newbies can have a chance. The kits below rank Hardcore or I guess Champion(Maybe?) are based on the Walking Dead series which out of honesty have not much of a benefit when it comes to playing for PVP and a revamping I suppose is needed solely if there will have a server focused on PVP. I further on what types of kits/ranks could be changed if people are willing to give TMDOP a try...(I will continue on another thread)

    Another important thing to point out is that certain PVP updates and changes should stay implemented sometimes due to the fact that it gets extremely stale if PVP is focused only on tanking or how good is your autoclicking... painkillers **** me off when you can freaking tank your way out of 5 people blasting you with bullets just because your wearing jugg and have ten stacks of pains to inhale... Hacking is another issue due to how competitive our TMD playerbase is when it comes to PVP...(Continued on another thread)

    Finally, just a good reminder to certain players of our community: Please stop thinking that you own this server. Some of these problems have been persistent due to certain individuals who in some cases, literally ruin the gameplay and community. Get off your high horse before I drag your arrogant **** off...

    Well, This thread will need some good freetime for some reading to do, please read through this and be open for the fact that even if the server bends back to the sometimes self-claimed OG players, this server wouldn't necessarily grow after their demands are furfilled...
    This is so long xD How long did it take you? I read the first half and it looks like a good post btw, ill try to finish reading it later.
     

    Captain_xWolf

    Mythical
    Captain_Furno
    Captain_Furno Captain_Furno
    Thanks for the quality feedback!:D The only thing that concerns me is that if people are down for this to become implemented...and if the builders are willing to create another map for PVP...

    While there’s a chance that builders might be busy, there is a strong possibility that players will want the return of TMD-OP. Be persuasive and I’ll see you on your next thread! :)
     

    DDENGAR

    Mythical
    DDENGAR
    DDENGAR DDENGAR
    This is so long xD How long did it take you? I read the first half and it looks like a good post btw, ill try to finish reading it later.
    I first asked Peaches for feedback on a teaser of it like two weeks ago, I then took a break and finished it today I guess... jeez this typing is about two weeks old ;-;
    It took about 1~2 hours...I have no life :p
     

    KyronicGaming

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    The issue we have is that we don't have the numbers to split the community again, I recommend checking out my new post and voting for your option though on the google polls.
     

    JBentley694

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    JBentley694
    JBentley694 JBentley694
    Hello there hoomans!

    This is an idea that I have be contemplating for an awful long time which as far as I remember is actually a mix of previous ideas that could possibly "fix" or "MakeTMDGreatAgain". I have thought out this idea excessively and is hoping the community will like what am I proposing that may possibly change this once religiously played server. Please if you have the time read it thoroughly since I am proposing something a bit horrendous...

    Back to the Compromise Conception:

    I am going to need to split this post up into multiple threads since I am generally talking about the TMD server and there are specifics and if I placed it on one thread, this thread will become off-topic in no time. Sorry!

    Okay, this first one is for the bois who want wars and Old TMD Players who all decided to quit or take a break.

    The idea is that TMD should be split back into TMDOP and TMD "Realism" or Hardcore. TMD Hardcore will be spoken about in the next post which I will be putting more information about soon. Now why are many people unsatisfied with the updates and the maps being rebuilt all the time? Oh, this is a really easy answer for some of us since it's so obvious. People who enjoyed Old TMD never wanted any of the updates! Wow! never thought of that, right? The general problem mostly with updates in my opinion is that the Old TMD mechanics and PVP is slowly disappearing and being changed with rapid updates that nobody has really a say about since it's generally kept a secret and not exactly beta-tested by actual players and more by people on the staff team. But then staff members are going to hit me with that: "Hey man! I'm a player too!" Well, you are correct! But you are the wrong person to test these things since you are more then a player! Beta-testing or updating things which change a lot of PVP aspects will always have some sort of backlash, every single game has them! So staff, if you want to sob about people bullying you, it is well deserved...because you signed up to deal with these kids! And Staff should be more professional and have the right emotions to deal with angry customers! If you make a mistake, fix yourself, not hide it away or deny it! ****, I'm talking about staff too much, I should back that down and talk bout it in depth in another post.

    TMD should be split because of the general community complaints. It should also be beta-tested too so nobody can complain about bugs or needed hotfixes. I feel if they brought back TMDOP there will be more wars, which leads to more players who "quit" returning back, which leads to a boost into more players coming back to TMD. Bandwagon is actually a very effective strategy into attracting people to play or do something inside society. Heck, the majority of the old teams who warred were mostly made up of people who only played TMD for the wars! They never really came on for another event! When wars were depleted into people who are not really good at wars and spam chat everyday to take down like a one guy team, nobody bothered to contribute towards these wars, and they all died.

    Another thing to consider is the constant updates that some people seem to feel that there is why they started to quit hoping that their boycott will do something...which they actually accomplished something but now they are back at it again...(will continue in another post sorry!) Some people have expressed deeply about how some of the updates are bad and some of them are okay to live with. But please don't immediately change the updates as well...

    Alrighty, sorry for keeping y'all waiting since I seem to be rambling on and on about random stuff that connect to each other in a random way, I will seriously this time only talk about TMDOP and some hotfixes that should be established in order for everyone to enjoy it.

    This is pretty simple in some sort of a way: Why do people enjoy wars? Is it the reward? The thrill of killing multiple opponents? How people will continue to come out either naked, riot, or back in full jugg to try to get their gear back? Or is it all of those things that make the wars fun and exciting that is sorta robbed from us now since no one wants to war against four people full jugg that keep spamming: War at CDC, full Jugg!


    TMDOP should be reopened into a beta-test server and eventually into a official server. @Builders, ah that doesn't work, we should think about the creation of a new map as well(I fully understand what y'all are thinking) but a map with almost no or minimal "details" as possible since these players play this server for the sole purpose for PVP. I feel that buildings should be revamped into the old Atlanta style and size where buildings are not giant like realistic skyscrapers but mostly short/medium small builds of buildings with multiple routes in and out. The Safezones can stay I guess but with less detail on the outside...Generally I am begging the builders, if ya'll are down to a new challenge to build us the old tmd map that would be revamped into focusing on the PVP aspect. I actually would personally like to suggest to add other builds that y'all feel can contribute to the map for PVP purposes, such as water warfare (build some battleships or ships @Rejante ) and easter eggs since you all deserve to put some easter eggs in there that nobody gets, except you)

    These below are solely the revamps or changes which I strongly suggest that should be implemented:

    The very first, is buffing the loot and removing to lower tiers in the server in order for TMDOP to fulfill the "OP" part of the server. The lower tiered gear literally are almost useless when it comes to PVP, nobody is going to use anything lower then a M14 in a war(Sorry I meant Barrett) since anything lower will get you killed very quickly. Remove Tier 2 weapons(Excluding the specials and LMGs), keep the armor riot and above, remove the gear that would be deemed useless such as a Hoe to PVP and replace them with items that can be tested in the use for PVP such as attachments...(Will continue on another thread)

    Secondly, revamping the kits and ranks, which may be more important for TMDOP so that newbies can have a chance. The kits below rank Hardcore or I guess Champion(Maybe?) are based on the Walking Dead series which out of honesty have not much of a benefit when it comes to playing for PVP and a revamping I suppose is needed solely if there will have a server focused on PVP. I further on what types of kits/ranks could be changed if people are willing to give TMDOP a try...(I will continue on another thread)

    Another important thing to point out is that certain PVP updates and changes should stay implemented sometimes due to the fact that it gets extremely stale if PVP is focused only on tanking or how good is your autoclicking... painkillers **** me off when you can freaking tank your way out of 5 people blasting you with bullets just because your wearing jugg and have ten stacks of pains to inhale... Hacking is another issue due to how competitive our TMD playerbase is when it comes to PVP...(Continued on another thread)

    Finally, just a good reminder to certain players of our community: Please stop thinking that you own this server. Some of these problems have been persistent due to certain individuals who in some cases, literally ruin the gameplay and community. Get off your high horse before I drag your arrogant **** off...

    Well, This thread will need some good freetime for some reading to do, please read through this and be open for the fact that even if the server bends back to the sometimes self-claimed OG players, this server wouldn't necessarily grow after their demands are furfilled...


    This was a long and well explained thread but it was a very good read.

    I understand and the rest of the staff/havoc team understand the frustration to the older players on how things have changed. I like and agree with the idea of bringing back TMDOP however tmd realism was a sad failure and I honestly don't see us attempting that mistake again any time soon. We do have multiple game mode ideas that we hope to get into beta testing hopefully by the end of this year with one being hellnight and the other a team pvp capture the flag death brawl. TMDOP is a possibility the only issue with adding more servers to TMD is the divide of the community and causing a major split between players. Overall we are working on new minigames and more pvp features. The builders are spread across the build servers working on multiple projects like TMD,MineWars,Hellnight,MiniGames,HavocHorizons,MapMaker and many others. We do read peoples suggestions and a lot of times we do impliment them into the game. We know recently the bugs and hackers and lag spikes have been hitting players hard and our owners and developers are working very hard to fix the issues.

    As for building an all new TMDOP map......its not impossible but if we added it to the list of current projects it would probably be a year or two before it is actually started. When we build for the current map it is always the pvp aspect that comes first to mind and the next update will have a lot more pvp fundamentals than the previous. Savannah will have tons of pvp potential especially with rooftop hoping being a thing. As for battleships and such I will yes that would be cool and that can very well be a hellnight map on its own, but as far as putting them on the current TMD map it wont be as satisfying, after some changes we had to do to make room for Savannah and Finley not a lot of ocean is there before you hit the world border. So sadly I don't think we will be seeing any large naval ships in the ocean around the map which is sad cause that would be cool but again it can be its own hellnight map and perhaps its own potential minigame.

    Again thanks for this post I enjoyed reading it.
     

    DDENGAR

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    DDENGAR
    DDENGAR DDENGAR
    The issue we have is that we don't have the numbers to split the community again, I recommend checking out my new post and voting for your option though on the google polls.
    Thanks for bringing that "split of two servers up thingy" I was going to go on another thread about why separating the server is something that could benefit the server this time due to how the community is already divided. I do frown upon the advertisement on your own thread but I will check onto it in a second...
    If you fully read my thread, there is a section on why some veteran players dislike the pushed updates and wanted back OLD TMD. My part II will take some more time, but I will make a brief explanation on why separation may help both playerbases. I do agree on how TMD Realism failed and how TMDOP wasn't much of an improvement from old TMD, but there are factors that people don't yet seem to see why exactly it failed. TMD Realism was a failure to began with, the only thing that changed was how people can consume pains...honestly pretty pathetic since that wasn't what me and some hardcore guys wanted really in the first place. Which is why I suggest TMD Hardcore, or what TMD was supposed to be as an TWD apocalyptic server with realistic aspects should be separate from the TMDOP/Old TMD, since they cannot be merged together since both parties or playerbases dislike the other aspect of gameplay. As I said before, the veterans didn't really want any of the new changes in PVP inside of the game. They loved the old PVP mechanics and with a good reason to, since it was never changed. When something was changed, it was slight and nobody complained and demanded it to be changed back. The updates just pushed the old PVP mechanics further away which is why many decided to "take a break".
    My conclusion is that separation of these TMD servers by first having them as beta servers and make TMDOP revert back to 2016 or before the 2017 January update as much as possible without that server to have "outrageous" updates that "ruin" the OG player's gameplay. The updates could continue onto the other server...
    Just a reminder, 2017 PVP mechanics made the server grow, but backwards since many people got good by using hacks to exploit others...and the veterans couldn't do much of anything but to join in using hacks to compete against those plebs...(you know who I am talking about, don't try to hide)

    I will mention @xDeclanLee since he also brought up with the separation problem...I hope that this explanation makes some sense, I will work on it on Compromise Part II...

    This must be a compromise this time, not having it one-sided because everyone will need to make some sort of a sacrifice... :(