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    Remove or keep jugg?

    • Remove jugg.

      Votes: 21 52.5%
    • Keep jugg.

      Votes: 19 47.5%

    • Total voters
      40

    FoxQuest

    Champion
    FoxQuest
    FoxQuest FoxQuest
    We are thinking of nerfing it or adding a small speed rebuff, but I'm hesistent to say anything as people will flip out regardless of what so say.

    Well you're the owner (or one of them); shouldn't matter if people complain. But for those who have jugg sets, just give them back in game money. I think that's the fairest way to do it and the
    the server will be much better off and actually be played and enjoyed like it was meant to.

    (Did you notice the second the? I bet many of you didn't lol)
     

    drewey09

    Champion
    drewey09
    drewey09 drewey09
    Personally if juggernaut armor is removed the server will make less money. Also I have the most juggernaut sets on the server and im on the best team on the server (ThePaccalypse) and a lot of people from the 3 best teams on the server will quit if jug is nerfed or removed. These teams include ThePaccalypse, Bandits, and Myth. Now these 3 teams fight quite a lot but that doesn't mean we hate eachother irl im personally friends with OriginalIRed and JaggMaster. These " Stupid jug wars" are actually very fun and enjoyable and btw its not the "juggies" fualt if your not good enough to kill our "100" player team :/ Also posting this comment here because I am to lazy to type anymore but bike pvp is also not our fualt #BlameJahango (he started the big bike pvp rage) see we need bikes to fight other biker teams. #2PaccaDad #BlameJahango Also idgaf what builders say you guys barely get on and when you do all you do is type in chat so why dont you stfu :D luv u guys! #BuilderSalt :DD::D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D::D:D:D::D

    2 things:
    1: You say it's not your fault for biker pvp yet you are the ones keeping it going.
    2: Why are you hating on the builders? They do so much stuff for the mining dead. They are never on because they are constantly building new things. Builders opinions do matter dude.
     

    Brqd

    Active member
    Bad excuse. I have 23 sets, idiot.

    It's overpowered. The only reason I have mine is so that I can sell it for more later.
    Lemme say it like this buddy. The people who don't want jugg are the people who dont use it (even if you have 23 set)..... And If you do use it then you must not use it in big wars cuz those are fun af and if you think they arent then its cuz you die to in them and your bad kid :)

    Btw of course your the type of person to sell your sets instead of use them xD no wonder your against juggy
     

    drewey09

    Champion
    drewey09
    drewey09 drewey09
    Lemme say it like this buddy. The people who don't want jugg are the people who dont use it (even if you have 23 set)..... And If you do use it then you must not use it in big wars cuz those are fun af and if you think they arent then its cuz you die to in them and your bad kid :)

    Btw of course your the type of person to sell your sets instead of use them xD no wonder your against juggy

    Red it's a two way street, Your only supporting jugg because you use it frequently and you most likely have become reliant on it, and there is nothing wrong with that.

    Red, definition of fun varies from person to person. While wars may be fun for you, they might not be as fun for others. My definition of fun is hanging out with friends, looting places and jus trying to survive.

    Guys no one is going to win this disagreement, because no matter what we say or do. No one is gonna agree. We each have our different standpoints and neither one is right. We all have different points to make. For example: I don't hate jugg, but it needs improvements to make the gameplay more fair. Like nerf pains or just remove them.

    Let me cut to the point,
    I don't think jugg should be removed, I think painkillers should. This would make both sides happy, because people get to keep their jugg, but jugg would still be killable.
     

    Squishy_

    New member
    I think jugg needs to stay cause if it'll get removed there wont really be a point to the game, people with infinite money will get bored and just leave, if jugg is removed they should remove infinite money and make shop's prices normal, maybe like 5k for a stack of pains, that's my opinion!
     

    purrr

    Titan
    purrr
    purrr purrr
    Lemme say it like this buddy. The people who don't want jugg are the people who dont use it (even if you have 23 set)..... And If you do use it then you must not use it in big wars cuz those are fun af and if you think they arent then its cuz you die to in them and your bad kid :)

    Btw of course your the type of person to sell your sets instead of use them xD no wonder your against juggy
    I use half, rarely.

    Big wars consist of ThePacclypse rushing you with a six man team in full.

    This isn't "talent" nor is it skill based. The idiots who say you need talent to use jugg are just ones who tank and chug pains with it.

    I won't even get started on your fourth grade esque grammar. It would take me too long to list your mistakes.
     

    Brqd

    Active member
    I use half, rarely.

    Big wars consist of ThePacclypse rushing you with a six man team in full.

    This isn't "talent" nor is it skill based. The idiots who say you need talent to use jugg are just ones who tank and chug pains with it.

    I won't even get started on your fourth grade esque grammar. It would take me too long to list your mistakes.
    Sorry for my bad grammar, as I don't feel the need to perfect it on a minecraft forum while talking to a kid like you.

    In response to what you said about skill, I can almost guarantee you that I am of a higher level than you in that department. And if we were both given the same set of gear (full jugg, this amount of pains, those guns, etc) who do you think would win? From what you said earlier you're pretty much saying that it would be a 50-50 chance on who wins because it "isn't "talent" nor is it skill based." But in reality it would be the player with a higher skill level.
     

    Brqd

    Active member
    I don't think jugg should be removed, I think painkillers should. This would make both sides happy, because people get to keep their jugg, but jugg would still be killable.
    Lets take Jahango for example, hes a better player than I am at the moment. And if him and I were to fight he would clearly win. --- Even though hes better than me there's still a large chance that I could get the first couple hits on him with a barrett, or the other way around. Painkillers give him a chance to regroup and get back into the fight. Fights without painkillers would be extremely short and not very fun.

    I respect your response (unlike HyperScrubs) but I am sure that you can see my point in what I have just stated.
     

    drewey09

    Champion
    drewey09
    drewey09 drewey09
    Lets take Jahango for example, hes a better player than I am at the moment. And if him and I were to fight he would clearly win. --- Even though hes better than me there's still a large chance that I could get the first couple hits on him with a barrett, or the other way around. Painkillers give him a chance to regroup and get back into the fight. Fights without painkillers would be extremely short and not very fun.

    I respect your response (unlike HyperScrubs) but I am sure that you can see my point in what I have just stated.

    That is true painkillers are a good way to regroup, They could make pain killers harder to acquire then? Or make spamming pain killers against the rules? But I agree with you there.
     

    Challenge_

    Famous
    Challenge_
    Challenge_ Challenge_
    THIS WILL MAKE BOTH GROUPS HAPPY.
    Keep Jugg on Normal TMD.
    Add Hardcore mode where jugg and infinite are irrelevant.
    We Gucci with this?
     
    Tactical_Fox48
    Tactical_Fox48 Tactical_Fox48
    THIS WILL MAKE BOTH GROUPS HAPPY.
    Keep Jugg on Normal TMD.
    Add Hardcore mode where jugg and infinite are irrelevant.
    We Gucci with this?
    It would make both groups happy...

    However, it takes a lot of money to add/run a server, and considering as how there were only about 20 players at max playing on the old Hardcore server, it wouldn't be worth adding the extra server.
     

    purrr

    Titan
    purrr
    purrr purrr
    Sorry for my bad grammar, as I don't feel the need to perfect it on a minecraft forum while talking to a kid like you.

    In response to what you said about skill, I can almost guarantee you that I am of a higher level than you in that department. And if we were both given the same set of gear (full jugg, this amount of pains, those guns, etc) who do you think would win? From what you said earlier you're pretty much saying that it would be a 50-50 chance on who wins because it "isn't "talent" nor is it skill based." But in reality it would be the player with a higher skill level.
    I'm sure you're so much better, especially since you love jugg so much.

    If this doesn't state my point, I can't comprehend how ignorant you are.
     
    DrinkYourMilk
    DrinkYourMilk DrinkYourMilk
    Removing Jugg from the server will get lawyers involved due to player in real life purchases.
    No im saying no longer be able to OBTAIN jugg you can wear the jugg you have currently and nothing will happen you just cant guarantee you'll get it back. but i do recommend keeping kit juggernaut since it's not op(a riot can easily kill a half jugg).
     

    Firrothe

    New member
    Even when these Jugg wars are fun, players without a team (Like me, cause most where just bad or begging for my items so i gave up joining 1 :D ...) Or with just a team of 5 (+/-) Players will Never have a chance against teams like named above... Even in Full Jugg.
     

    BenSmart112

    Mythical
    BenSmart112
    BenSmart112 BenSmart112
    Well you're the owner (or one of them); shouldn't matter if people complain. But for those who have jugg sets, just give them back in game money. I think that's the fairest way to do it and the
    the server will be much better off and actually be played and enjoyed like it was meant to.

    (Did you notice the second the? I bet many of you didn't lol)
    What if you make it unobtainable, remove Kit Jugg, and have, instead, Reinforced Titanium (pretty much retextured/remodeled something-or-other, perhaps dye?) be given to Glenn to get pieces of jugg? They'd need 3 per jugg boots, 5 for the helm, and 8 for both the leggings and chest, and be obtained by crates in random quantities of 1-6 pieces of Reinforced Titanium with a 1/140 chance of getting through a vote crate, a 1/120 chance of getting through rare, a 1/80 chance of getting in God, and a 1/35 chance of getting in a legendary crate. However, since Jugg would be harder to get, maybe boost the amount of damage a piece can take back up to 1000 hits or even higher. How do you think?
     

    _VC_

    Famous
    _VC_
    _VC_ _VC_
    I've said this once before and I'm gonna continue saying it till everyone understands. I started playing 2 years ago when there was no jugg and the server consisted of about 30 to 40 players. As the server began to rise every week, more and more people suggested they use diomand armor for something. Before they didn't use it because it'd be too OP and stupid in a game based on survival. The server then became very popular and many more people suggested diomand armor. Finally about a year ago it got added. It was awesome for a little bit because it was near impossible to get any pieces, and wars remained the same. But eventually the amount of jugg grew to, well you know how it is today.

    I'm gonna compare the wars back then to the wars now.
    -back then if u wore full riot you were considered "scary"
    -No one cared about durability because if you screwed up and aloud yourself to get shot twice you were done, there was no chugging pains or your precious high armor points to protect you.
    -it was all stealth and strategy. If you wanted to war in Atlanta you would be a dead man in seconds if you even stepped out in the open streets. You had to duck through alleyways and check if the coast was clear when crossing the street.
    -An average person at war maybe had half a stack of pains? Maybe more
    -If you were smart and stealthy and a good barret shot you could win just about any war
    -The teams of 6 weren't that scary, yeah it was more than my team had, but that didn't matter back then. If you were smart enough you would hide until they decided to make their move and switch buildings or try and charge. Then the second they step in the open you would hecking light them up, usually taking out half or more of their team.
    -Back then if you made a stupid mistake like stepping out into the open, thinking you were safe, you were punished. There were sharpshooters and snipers everywhere. Maneuvering around Atlanta was one of the toughest and scariest things on the server.

    But what happened to all those smart players and sharpshooters, like myself, once jugg began to take over wars? Well I'll tell ya what happened to me. My team would pick a spot in Atlanta to sit when we got bored of holding Alexandria. We were in full riot as always ready for an intense war, we thought we could take some jugg guys on with our skill from the old days. I was watching down the CDC area from brick waiting for someone to come in from Berx. Finally some guy appeared in full jugg ( keep in mind I'm always building and this was a rare time I decided to play for once) The full jugg ran right out of his cover into the open. I thought Ha what an idiot he's screwed. I put two barret shots in him and he's still going so I kept shooting. I was still a pretty good shot and landed at least 5 or 6 consecutive shots in him before he made it to red. You can imagine how confused I was. If you ever pulled some move like that in the old days and tried to run out in the open like he just did you would be considered an absolute moron. But I suppose when your wearing full jugg and have 8 stacks of pains in your inventory, stealth then doesn't even matter, it'd just be a waste if time. Why hide from the enemy and sneak your way to a building if the enemy's barret shots won't even matter? You can stroll your way through death alley (that's what we called the streets of Atlanta) and not even be harmed. You might get shot by a barret 50 cal a thousand times but ah heck you're fine! Your armor did all the work for you. All you had to do was press "w" and walk forward while using your mouse to guide your movement. Wow! Good job dude! You are really good at PvP, I mean like wow you now have the authority to call someone "ez" you should be proud of your skilled work! What a tough job you have! All jokes aside the real sad thing is there's no one left like me who sees right through all the crap jugg wars and how "skill based they are". Take off the armor and that's your test, your REAL test if you are truly skilled. Every new player comes in and learns of these jugg PVP GODS and instantly worships them, and after a couple months of gaining in game cash they start buying jugg, and over time they become a great PVP GOD like everyone else. It's honestly pathetic. That's my take on jugg.
     

    BenSmart112

    Mythical
    BenSmart112
    BenSmart112 BenSmart112
    I've said this once before and I'm gonna continue saying it till everyone understands. I started playing 2 years ago when there was no jugg and the server consisted of about 30 to 40 players. As the server began to rise every week, more and more people suggested they use diomand armor for something. Before they didn't use it because it'd be too OP and stupid in a game based on survival. The server then became very popular and many more people suggested diomand armor. Finally about a year ago it got added. It was awesome for a little bit because it was near impossible to get any pieces, and wars remained the same. But eventually the amount of jugg grew to, well you know how it is today.

    I'm gonna compare the wars back then to the wars now.
    -back then if u wore full riot you were considered "scary"
    -No one cared about durability because if you screwed up and aloud yourself to get shot twice you were done, there was no chugging pains or your precious high armor points to protect you.
    -it was all stealth and strategy. If you wanted to war in Atlanta you would be a dead man in seconds if you even stepped out in the open streets. You had to duck through alleyways and check if the coast was clear when crossing the street.
    -An average person at war maybe had half a stack of pains? Maybe more
    -If you were smart and stealthy and a good barret shot you could win just about any war
    -The teams of 6 weren't that scary, yeah it was more than my team had, but that didn't matter back then. If you were smart enough you would hide until they decided to make their move and switch buildings or try and charge. Then the second they step in the open you would hecking light them up, usually taking out half or more of their team.
    -Back then if you made a stupid mistake like stepping out into the open, thinking you were safe, you were punished. There were sharpshooters and snipers everywhere. Maneuvering around Atlanta was one of the toughest and scariest things on the server.

    But what happened to all those smart players and sharpshooters, like myself, once jugg began to take over wars? Well I'll tell ya what happened to me. My team would pick a spot in Atlanta to sit when we got bored of holding Alexandria. We were in full riot as always ready for an intense war, we thought we could take some jugg guys on with our skill from the old days. I was watching down the CDC area from brick waiting for someone to come in from Berx. Finally some guy appeared in full jugg ( keep in mind I'm always building and this was a rare time I decided to play for once) The full jugg ran right out of his cover into the open. I thought Ha what an idiot he's screwed. I put two barret shots in him and he's still going so I kept shooting. I was still a pretty good shot and landed at least 5 or 6 consecutive shots in him before he made it to red. You can imagine how confused I was. If you ever pulled some move like that in the old days and tried to run out in the open like he just did you would be considered an absolute moron. But I suppose when your wearing full jugg and have 8 stacks of pains in your inventory, stealth then doesn't even matter, it'd just be a waste if time. Why hide from the enemy and sneak your way to a building if the enemy's barret shots won't even matter? You can stroll your way through death alley (that's what we called the streets of Atlanta) and not even be harmed. You might get shot by a barret 50 cal a thousand times but ah heck you're fine! Your armor did all the work for you. All you had to do was press "w" and walk forward while using your mouse to guide your movement. Wow! Good job dude! You are really good at PvP, I mean like wow you now have the authority to call someone "ez" you should be proud of your skilled work! What a tough job you have! All jokes aside the real sad thing is there's no one left like me who sees right through all the crap jugg wars and how "skill based they are". Take off the armor and that's your test, your REAL test if you are truly skilled. Every new player comes in and learns of these jugg PVP GODS and instantly worships them, and after a couple months of gaining in game cash they start buying jugg, and over time they become a great PVP GOD like everyone else. It's honestly pathetic. That's my take on jugg.
    Well, at least with jugg you stand a chance against hacker noobs. Maybe there's some way to make it less common though, like remove it from anyone who joined within the last six months and remove jugg kit?
     
    Tactical_Fox48
    Tactical_Fox48 Tactical_Fox48
    Red it's a two way street, Your only supporting jugg because you use it frequently and you most likely have become reliant on it, and there is nothing wrong with that.

    Red, definition of fun varies from person to person. While wars may be fun for you, they might not be as fun for others. My definition of fun is hanging out with friends, looting places and jus trying to survive.

    Guys no one is going to win this disagreement, because no matter what we say or do. No one is gonna agree. We each have our different standpoints and neither one is right. We all have different points to make. For example: I don't hate jugg, but it needs improvements to make the gameplay more fair. Like nerf pains or just remove them.

    Let me cut to the point,
    I don't think jugg should be removed, I think painkillers should. This would make both sides happy, because people get to keep their jugg, but jugg would still be killable.
    I agree with pretty much every point made here, especially the one about pains. It doesn't matter whether you have riot or Jugg armor, if you have stacks of pains, you can survive almost anything if you're able to get to cover fast enough.
     

    drewey09

    Champion
    drewey09
    drewey09 drewey09
    I've said this once before and I'm gonna continue saying it till everyone understands. I started playing 2 years ago when there was no jugg and the server consisted of about 30 to 40 players. As the server began to rise every week, more and more people suggested they use diomand armor for something. Before they didn't use it because it'd be too OP and stupid in a game based on survival. The server then became very popular and many more people suggested diomand armor. Finally about a year ago it got added. It was awesome for a little bit because it was near impossible to get any pieces, and wars remained the same. But eventually the amount of jugg grew to, well you know how it is today.

    I'm gonna compare the wars back then to the wars now.
    -back then if u wore full riot you were considered "scary"
    -No one cared about durability because if you screwed up and aloud yourself to get shot twice you were done, there was no chugging pains or your precious high armor points to protect you.
    -it was all stealth and strategy. If you wanted to war in Atlanta you would be a dead man in seconds if you even stepped out in the open streets. You had to duck through alleyways and check if the coast was clear when crossing the street.
    -An average person at war maybe had half a stack of pains? Maybe more
    -If you were smart and stealthy and a good barret shot you could win just about any war
    -The teams of 6 weren't that scary, yeah it was more than my team had, but that didn't matter back then. If you were smart enough you would hide until they decided to make their move and switch buildings or try and charge. Then the second they step in the open you would hecking light them up, usually taking out half or more of their team.
    -Back then if you made a stupid mistake like stepping out into the open, thinking you were safe, you were punished. There were sharpshooters and snipers everywhere. Maneuvering around Atlanta was one of the toughest and scariest things on the server.

    But what happened to all those smart players and sharpshooters, like myself, once jugg began to take over wars? Well I'll tell ya what happened to me. My team would pick a spot in Atlanta to sit when we got bored of holding Alexandria. We were in full riot as always ready for an intense war, we thought we could take some jugg guys on with our skill from the old days. I was watching down the CDC area from brick waiting for someone to come in from Berx. Finally some guy appeared in full jugg ( keep in mind I'm always building and this was a rare time I decided to play for once) The full jugg ran right out of his cover into the open. I thought Ha what an idiot he's screwed. I put two barret shots in him and he's still going so I kept shooting. I was still a pretty good shot and landed at least 5 or 6 consecutive shots in him before he made it to red. You can imagine how confused I was. If you ever pulled some move like that in the old days and tried to run out in the open like he just did you would be considered an absolute moron. But I suppose when your wearing full jugg and have 8 stacks of pains in your inventory, stealth then doesn't even matter, it'd just be a waste if time. Why hide from the enemy and sneak your way to a building if the enemy's barret shots won't even matter? You can stroll your way through death alley (that's what we called the streets of Atlanta) and not even be harmed. You might get shot by a barret 50 cal a thousand times but ah heck you're fine! Your armor did all the work for you. All you had to do was press "w" and walk forward while using your mouse to guide your movement. Wow! Good job dude! You are really good at PvP, I mean like wow you now have the authority to call someone "ez" you should be proud of your skilled work! What a tough job you have! All jokes aside the real sad thing is there's no one left like me who sees right through all the crap jugg wars and how "skill based they are". Take off the armor and that's your test, your REAL test if you are truly skilled. Every new player comes in and learns of these jugg PVP GODS and instantly worships them, and after a couple months of gaining in game cash they start buying jugg, and over time they become a great PVP GOD like everyone else. It's honestly pathetic. That's my take on jugg.

    Jugg makes the game so boring. When I first joined I played Pve and camped at Bigspot, It didn't have anything but military armor. I didn't even know jugg was a thing, or riot. When I first got riot it was like super duper exciting for me, Wheni got my first set of jugg the feeling was like meh. The sad thing is riot has nothing against jugg. I think there is a compromise somewhere out there for the people that want jugg and those that don't want it. I just don't know what it is.