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    Thoughts on the update?


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    Rang0D

    New member
    Alright so, I tried making one of these before but it didn't end well. So, I'm going to try again and instead of pointing out the flaws, I'll just make suggestions. It's been maybe 2.5 days since the other post? My thoughts have changed a little, but not much. I'll be dividing everything I talk about into sections (The Locations). After that I'll make a section about game play. So, lets get on with it.

    Map Overall;
    Side Note: I'm not afraid to say I liked the big map better, but this map, with a some tweaks, can be just as good.
    [1] Less Trees. I know Players Complained there were not enough trees in the last update, but this time there are to many.
    [2] This sounds stupid, but I think a lot of the interior around the map is to modern.

    Hilltop;
    Side Note: Most players have a problem with the current Hilltop, so I'll address it for everyone.
    [1] Trailers could be changed, but they're usable the way they are.
    [2] Chicken Coup looks weird with the iron trapdoors.
    [3] New Doors Would Be Great (Front and back of Barrington home).
    [4] Make Hilltop gate operable from outside the walls as it's a main rp spot.
    [5] More rooms inside of the Barrington House.
    [6] Adding the clinic back inside a possibility?
    [7] The Windows of the Barrington Home seem a bit.. weird.
    [8] From my eyes, the trees kinda look plastic.
    [9] Most of the interior within The Hilltop is a bit to... modern.

    Alexandria;
    Side Note: Not much I can say as this is my favorite part of the map.
    [1] Possibility of removing the vehicles outside the gate?
    [2] I can vision keeping the garage trucks, but maybe move them to a different location?
    [3] The upstairs clinic interior could be changed.

    Junkyard;
    Side Note: Great location, it's going to be used by many for not just rp, but also for PvP.
    [1] I said this in my last post, and I'll say it again, the interior is to luxurious for living under a heap of trash.
    (This is like the only issue I have with it, the exterior is amazing.)

    Atlanta;
    Side Note: I've roamed around Atlanta over and over again, and even though I am not a PvP'er, I can envision the PvP is great. (This opinion has changed from my last post as I've been doing as others have and just wondering in others minds more and more).
    [1] Now, I know that this is probably already as works, but there's a chunk that isn't as detailed as the rest. I believe this is probably from the corrupt chunk that occurred, I just wanted to put that out there.
    [2] I would love to see more locations/add-on's of locations such as the subway or the sewer. These are by far my favorite locations located in Atlanta.
    [3] More skyline access would be great. (I mean going rooftop to rooftop.)
    [4] I think this speaks for itself, #SaveTheFinger.

    Terminus;
    Side Note: Probably my third favorite location on the map. Very accurate to the show.
    [1] This is all I got, the interior is to modern. For a place that was in the middle of train tracks, you wouldn't expect very... "comfy" rooms. Especially when cannibals lived there. My point being, doesn't fit the theme/vibe.

    Woodbury:
    Honestly, nothing I can say. I can't say I love the location as it doesn't fit the kind of locations I like, but it's 100% accurate. The buildings look great, the interior fits as it would in the kind of community Woodbury was.

    Oceanside;
    Side Note: I only have 1 big thing.
    [1] Totally unlike the show! Looks nothing like it! I honestly suggest redoing it all together.

    Abigail;
    Side Note: Yes, I know it's a smaller location, but a adored one.
    [1] Looks great, yet I'd like to see more done to it soon.

    Harts:
    Side Notes: Looks great.I just have 2 suggestions to make it better.
    [1] Not sure if they were given a limit or what, but I believe it should be maybe 2.5x bigger to be realistic. I'm sure more great stuff could be done to it with that amount of room.
    [2] Make it more apocalyptic. Yes, I know it already is quite a bit, but more could be done. (Military bases such as this one would've been a major target when the outbreak first began).

    Sanctuary;
    Side Note: Can't much say I want anything changed, but I would like to see more and more added.

    Kingdom;
    [1] Change The Surrounding Area
    [2] Add more detail

    Belport Harbor;
    Pretty good. Not explored it to much. So, can't really make any suggestions.

    Prison;
    Side Note: Only one suggestion, but a pretty big one.
    [1] Needs to look more run down.

    I believe that covers all the main areas on the map. Time to move onto game play.
    Now for the game play I will be stating some of the flaws just to help out the server. I've seen people say PvP is just weird now I believe they said. (What I'm trying to say is, it's not the map this time around people don't like, it's the game play.)

    Game play Flaws;
    [1] Gun Mechanics would be great as they use to be.
    [2] I personally would like to bring infection back into the game. (Re texture anti this time around so it doesn't look like orange nail polish. xD)
    [3] I don't believe PvP'ers like the bandages. I personally don't see why as it would add tension to the game play.
    [4] Stack able weapons? Bug or Feature?
    That's all I can personally think of, just comment them and if I think they're THAT BIG of a issue, I'll add them.

    Game Play Suggestions;
    [1] More guns. AR-15, FN FAL, More Glock Variants, etc. etc.
    [2] Make Scopes/Iron Sights more realistic to look down.
    [3] Vehicle edits. Only have one of the car colors. Add more detail to said car. Add pick-up as a car. Make bike more like Daryl's. Possible jeep?
    [4] Sounds weird, but add the stair sitting addon for those odd moments in rp when everyone is sitting around a table being awkward. (Only do so for certain stairs, aka the ones used for interior.)
    [5] More explosives. Flash Grenade, Smoke Bomb, Pipe Bomb, etc. etc.
    [6] Detail the katana more.
    [7] Add more medical items/features.
    [8] Add /trade back

    There's more, none as important though. As my opinion has changed for this update, yet I do not think it's horrible, I'm not fond of it. I think it can and will get much better though.
    Before I end off, just so this post doesn't turn into drama and All Out War, these are only opinions. I appreciate everything the builders have done. They made a whole new map in about 6 months, what other servers can say they have a build team like that?
     

    JessePinktip

    Mythical
    JaxonTeller
    JaxonTeller JaxonTeller
    Since I'm just a guy who ya know, places stuff, I'll only be responding to the build portion of your post.

    Hilltop:
    1. Already completely redid all the trailers.
    2. I'm not sure if this'll change but I can try to work with it.
    3. I'll try to redo the doors.
    4. Probably add the outside lever back.
    5. I don't plan on more rooms but I have a compromise of adding 1-2 beds per bedroom if that'll work for you.
    6. Clinic will not be added back due to the infirmary being in a trailer in the show (wouldn't make sense putting another one in the house).
    7. I'll see if we can do something with the windows.
    8. There's not much we can do with the trees (we don't have a birch wood texture anymore).
    9. I'll do what I can with the interior.

    Alexandria:
    1. I'll see what the other builders say, if the vehicles aren't removed next map update then they will by the time season eight roles around.
    2. The garbage trucks we're in that spot in the most recent episode so I don't think we could really move them anywhere else in Alexandria.
    3. I'll take a look at the interior and see if there's anything that can be changed.

    Atlanta
    I'll just sum it up, we're gonna probably do more with it. Especially the non-detailed spots.

    Terminus
    1.I think it's being worked with again by another builder.

    Woodbury:
    Yeah I get what you mean, it's a cool place, but it'll just never be one of those kinds of places you'd want to camp at.

    Oceanside:
    I'll see what we can do.

    Harts:
    1. I don't know if we can make it bigger.
    2. I'll see if we can make it more apocalyptic.

    Sanctuary:
    1. I have more plans to add along to it, idea is to get full on interior. I may simplify the hallways so they're not as much a maze anymore, I mean who even paid attention to the exact way Daryl escaped?

    Kingdom:
    1. We have a LOT planned for the kingdom and I completely see what you mean.

    Prison:
    1. Whenever I get the chance I'll weather it down a little bit more.

    Open to more suggestions, trying to improve the map so everyone likes it. Once everything settled I promise you all should like the update.
     

    Rang0D

    New member
    Since I'm just a guy who ya know, places stuff, I'll only be responding to the build portion of your post.

    Hilltop:
    1. Already completely redid all the trailers.
    2. I'm not sure if this'll change but I can try to work with it.
    3. I'll try to redo the doors.
    4. Probably add the outside lever back.
    5. I don't plan on more rooms but I have a compromise of adding 1-2 beds per bedroom if that'll work for you.
    6. Clinic will not be added back due to the infirmary being in a trailer in the show (wouldn't make sense putting another one in the house).
    7. I'll see if we can do something with the windows.
    8. There's not much we can do with the trees (we don't have a birch wood texture anymore).
    9. I'll do what I can with the interior.

    Alexandria:
    1. I'll see what the other builders say, if the vehicles aren't removed next map update then they will by the time season eight roles around.
    2. The garbage trucks we're in that spot in the most recent episode so I don't think we could really move them anywhere else in Alexandria.
    3. I'll take a look at the interior and see if there's anything that can be changed.

    Atlanta
    I'll just sum it up, we're gonna probably do more with it. Especially the non-detailed spots.

    Terminus
    1.I think it's being worked with again by another builder.

    Woodbury:
    Yeah I get what you mean, it's a cool place, but it'll just never be one of those kinds of places you'd want to camp at.

    Oceanside:
    I'll see what we can do.

    Harts:
    1. I don't know if we can make it bigger.
    2. I'll see if we can make it more apocalyptic.

    Sanctuary:
    1. I have more plans to add along to it, idea is to get full on interior. I may simplify the hallways so they're not as much a maze anymore, I mean who even paid attention to the exact way Daryl escaped?

    Kingdom:
    1. We have a LOT planned for the kingdom and I completely see what you mean.

    Prison:
    1. Whenever I get the chance I'll weather it down a little bit more.

    Open to more suggestions, trying to improve the map so everyone likes it. Once everything settled I promise you all should like the update.
    Thanks for understanding my point of veiw here. ;D
     

    purrr

    Titan
    purrr
    purrr purrr
    I like the gameplay changes.

    Bandages are truly useless, by the way. I think the amount of grenades we have is good and flashbangs/smokes would cause lag.

    New weapons would be nice, but before that I would mind seeing realistic fire rates.
     

    QueenMunchii

    Mythical
    QueenMunchii
    QueenMunchii QueenMunchii
    @FaultyParachute
    Sooooo...
    the Stackable Weapons you where talking about. that is just a glich. We advise not letting weapons stack. or else when the bug is fixed you may loose said stacked weapons.
    (The jeep idea sounds really cool, i'll suggest it to Kyrictic)
    The sitting in chairs mod thingy. That would be cool. but. it would also cause lag. and in pvp situations. imagine you're in the sanctuary having a huge fight and you hit a chair instead of the gun, then your opponent kills ya. (Idk if pvp'ers would enjoy thay)
    you Can have a more Detailed Katana by using the beefier Texture pack in /Resources
    And Trade is just glitched Atm.
     

    Firelillx

    Mythical
    Firelillx
    Firelillx Firelillx
    I thought this was a very constructive post. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    I am pretty happy with most of the map. I love the size of the map now and the detail level. The only location I do not like is Oceanside. It is one of my favorite locations in the show, but on the server it is really boring and nothing like it looks in the show. I wish it was closer to water and lush with trees everywhere like it was in the show.

    Other than oceanside im 100% happy with the new map!
     

    KyronicGaming

    Mythical
    KenkoMC
    KenkoMC KenkoMC
    'Make Scopes/Iron Sights more realistic to look down.' - I had done that before, I had taken the scope from cod and replaced it. It looked sick and I wish I still had the pack but Id love to do that again.

    'Vehicle edits. Only have one of the car colours. Add more detail to said car. Add pick-up as a car. Make bike more like Daryl's. Possible jeep?' - My cop car is coming soon so hopefully that would tide you over, I also sent over my van. I plan to make Daryls new bike, edit the red car into Glenns car from season one. I have other plans I wish not to say as off yet but here is a hint 'Comics'

    'Sounds weird, but add the stair sitting addon for those odd moments in rp when everyone is sitting around a table being awkward. (Only do so for certain stairs, aka the ones used for interior.)' - I actually like this idea if done correctly, perhaps a thing in chat saying [Yes/No]

    'More explosives. Flash Grenade, Smoke Bomb, Pipe Bomb, etc. etc.' - Hell Yeah!

    - Kyritic
     

    Rang0D

    New member
    Hey guys, I just want to start off with thanking everyone for the positive comments on this post. The last post I made was met with negative responses as I put a negative tone towards it. Anyways, it was recently brought to my attention I've been causing to many issues currently. (Seems ironic for a Ex-Staff Member, right?) I'm not going to blame that fact on IRL issues or my friends here on the server. Honestly, I believe I have some of the best friends a person could have. I'm personally going to try and and improve myself IRL and here on Havoc. I'll begin to be more active here on the forums. The last thing I would like mention is now that I'm no longer staff and haven't been for awhile, I'm going to try and begin to help the server again. After I had some random's I don't know tell me they believe I did great with the post, let alone @Firelillx complementing it, I'm going to begin to make more post on my suggestions and idea's here for Havoc. I have one post to make before I do so though. Thanks guys, have a great day.