This is not the Mining Dead

[killer2themx]

I just want you guys who read the comics and or watch the show to think back to either and think about the similarities between this server and The Walking Dead. The way I look at it, The Walking Dead is about survival, and that consisted of having no idea where you were, having little clothing and food, having walkers be much more deadly than they are now (walkers are a joke right now on the server), and having a weapon was a big deal let alone ammo for it. See, on the Mining Dead, we are not about this.

We have compasses either telling us where the nearest town is or where the nearest player is. We have Jugg armor which can withstand multiple bullet shots from guns that would normally kill someone immediately. And in these fights between groups, people us painkillers in a way that would make you overdose and fall over dead within an hour. We have safezones where people who have unlocked Infinite Money can buy anything they want from the stores, and regular people can also buy pretty much the rarest guns you could ever find for not even that much! People walk around on this server carrying 20 duffle bags on them and 7 guns at their immediate disposal. We have the ability to teleport around the map.

Does none of this sound crazy? The way I feel, this is all wrong. I understand that it is much more fun with all of this, but is it really what The Walking Dead is about?

This is what I suggest.

Add back hardcore TMD. Just do something that will make the game more realistic.

 

[Snek87]

I do believe that hardcore mode was removed due to the lack of players. What point would it make to add something back that nobody hardly played on.

 

[_VC_]

I agree. I don't know when you started playing but the "good old days of tmd" consisted of:
-no jugg
-only like 10 people had infinite money (which was a great way to raise money for the server to get bigger, but is now a pretty big problem)
-painkillers were tough to come by, so we're tier 4 and 3 guns
-and I don't remember exactly how the walkers were.

I personally think the main thing thats ruined the server is jugg. Before jugg, when riot was the best armor, it was a lot harder to stay alive. During wars, it was all about skill and stealth, whoever could outsmart the other. Nowadays there's no skill involved at all, full juggs running around in their teams of 6 with golden everything, katana, spaz, and their 8 stacks of pains on hand, They never have to worry about stealth because no matter what, their armor+ pains will outlast anything. Today you win wars by either A.Having more people than the other team or B. Having longer jugg durability/pains.

Probably my favorite thing about riot gear is you don't have to be in riot gear to kill another riot. I've killed plenty of full riots with only a winchester and a combat knife (aka kit hunter). It's all about stealth and timing. I've tried doing the same to full juggs and no matter what, it's impossible. Doesn't matter how stealthy I am or how many hits I get on em first, his armor gives him enough time to locate me and one-shot me. Every time.

Now I realize I've been typing for like 10 minutes now jesus christ chill vc. So I'm gonna wrap this up, but I've been thinking about this idea for months to make TMD great again.
-Remove jugg
(Or if thats too far, do a reset and make it EXTREMELY rare)
-Remove all tier 4 guns, painkillers, and riot gear from the shops(this would make unlimited money not as OP)
-^That would also make the market for survivors a lot bigger because the value of those items would increase, so more people would go out looting for them, or buy crates as well.
-If jugg was completely removed, we'd have to find a way to compensate for all the pieces some people have been collecting for the past year. I'd say maybe make each piece tradeable for like 30k ingame cash? Idk something like that.

That's my idea, but It will only happen if enough people want it to. And I doubt the majority of the server would want to remove their precious jugg. Jugg gear was added in July of 2015 a year ago. And over the past year is when this server grew exponentially. More than half of the server have no idea what it was like before jugg. So all the thousands of noobs that have joined in the past year have became complete worshippers of jugg gear. Spending all their time in safe zones searching for some jugg to buy, or spamming MangledFury asking if he'll give some jugg. Last time the idea of a reset was mentioned everyone just about lost their minds. If this idea was going to happen the world might combust into flames for all those jugg worshippers.

That's why I don't think we can make TMD great again. Majority vote has been how the server makes big decisions like this. And I don't think the majority of the people would like this idea. Sadly. Theyd rather spend their days not having to face a challenge at all. Endlessly searching for more jugg. All I can do in my power is make the greatest TWD builds you've ever seen, and you guys just wait, the build team's got some crazy stuff coming. But yeah that's my take on stuff and things.

 

[_VC_]

freakin book ^

 

[Nagi_Kokoro]

I agree The Mining Dead compared to The Walking Dead there are not many similarities besides the walkers lol.

 

[JessePinktip]

They should bring it back but put more work into it, hardcore had nothing special to be honnest

freakin book ^

I completely agree #makeTMDgreatagain

 

[The7thCpt]

I agree. I don't know when you started playing but the "good old days of tmd" consisted of:
-no jugg
-only like 10 people had infinite money (which was a great way to raise money for the server to get bigger, but is now a pretty big problem)
-painkillers were tough to come by, so we're tier 4 and 3 guns
-and I don't remember exactly how the walkers were.

I personally think the main thing thats ruined the server is jugg. Before jugg, when riot was the best armor, it was a lot harder to stay alive. During wars, it was all about skill and stealth, whoever could outsmart the other. Nowadays there's no skill involved at all, full juggs running around in their teams of 6 with golden everything, katana, spaz, and their 8 stacks of pains on hand, They never have to worry about stealth because no matter what, their armor+ pains will outlast anything. Today you win wars by either A.Having more people than the other team or B. Having longer jugg durability/pains.

Probably my favorite thing about riot gear is you don't have to be in riot gear to kill another riot. I've killed plenty of full riots with only a winchester and a combat knife (aka kit hunter). It's all about stealth and timing. I've tried doing the same to full juggs and no matter what, it's impossible. Doesn't matter how stealthy I am or how many hits I get on em first, his armor gives him enough time to locate me and one-shot me. Every time.

Now I realize I've been typing for like 10 minutes now jesus christ chill vc. So I'm gonna wrap this up, but I've been thinking about this idea for months to make TMD great again.
-Remove jugg
(Or if thats too far, do a reset and make it EXTREMELY rare)
-Remove all tier 4 guns, painkillers, and riot gear from the shops(this would make unlimited money not as OP)
-^That would also make the market for survivors a lot bigger because the value of those items would increase, so more people would go out looting for them, or buy crates as well.
-If jugg was completely removed, we'd have to find a way to compensate for all the pieces some people have been collecting for the past year. I'd say maybe make each piece tradeable for like 30k ingame cash? Idk something like that.

That's my idea, but It will only happen if enough people want it to. And I doubt the majority of the server would want to remove their precious jugg. Jugg gear was added in July of 2015 a year ago. And over the past year is when this server grew exponentially. More than half of the server have no idea what it was like before jugg. So all the thousands of noobs that have joined in the past year have became complete worshippers of jugg gear. Spending all their time in safe zones searching for some jugg to buy, or spamming MangledFury asking if he'll give some jugg. Last time the idea of a reset was mentioned everyone just about lost their minds. If this idea was going to happen the world might combust into flames for all those jugg worshippers.

That's why I don't think we can make TMD great again. Majority vote has been how the server makes big decisions like this. And I don't think the majority of the people would like this idea. Sadly. Theyd rather spend their days not having to face a challenge at all. Endlessly searching for more jugg. All I can do in my power is make the greatest TWD builds you've ever seen, and you guys just wait, the build team's got some crazy stuff coming. But yeah that's my take on stuff and things.

This post is excellent and raises many valid points that I agree with. Kudos to you for calling this out. I have nothing to add, you have another supporter.

 

[FoxQuest]

I agree remove Jugg, but why infinite? Let them stay lucky and have infinite I think it's a great idea for people to buy crates

 

[Faded_Panda]

I agree. I don't know when you started playing but the "good old days of tmd" consisted of:
-no jugg
-only like 10 people had infinite money (which was a great way to raise money for the server to get bigger, but is now a pretty big problem)
-painkillers were tough to come by, so we're tier 4 and 3 guns
-and I don't remember exactly how the walkers were.

I personally think the main thing thats ruined the server is jugg. Before jugg, when riot was the best armor, it was a lot harder to stay alive. During wars, it was all about skill and stealth, whoever could outsmart the other. Nowadays there's no skill involved at all, full juggs running around in their teams of 6 with golden everything, katana, spaz, and their 8 stacks of pains on hand, They never have to worry about stealth because no matter what, their armor+ pains will outlast anything. Today you win wars by either A.Having more people than the other team or B. Having longer jugg durability/pains.

Probably my favorite thing about riot gear is you don't have to be in riot gear to kill another riot. I've killed plenty of full riots with only a winchester and a combat knife (aka kit hunter). It's all about stealth and timing. I've tried doing the same to full juggs and no matter what, it's impossible. Doesn't matter how stealthy I am or how many hits I get on em first, his armor gives him enough time to locate me and one-shot me. Every time.

Now I realize I've been typing for like 10 minutes now jesus christ chill vc. So I'm gonna wrap this up, but I've been thinking about this idea for months to make TMD great again.
-Remove jugg
(Or if thats too far, do a reset and make it EXTREMELY rare)
-Remove all tier 4 guns, painkillers, and riot gear from the shops(this would make unlimited money not as OP)
-^That would also make the market for survivors a lot bigger because the value of those items would increase, so more people would go out looting for them, or buy crates as well.
-If jugg was completely removed, we'd have to find a way to compensate for all the pieces some people have been collecting for the past year. I'd say maybe make each piece tradeable for like 30k ingame cash? Idk something like that.

That's my idea, but It will only happen if enough people want it to. And I doubt the majority of the server would want to remove their precious jugg. Jugg gear was added in July of 2015 a year ago. And over the past year is when this server grew exponentially. More than half of the server have no idea what it was like before jugg. So all the thousands of noobs that have joined in the past year have became complete worshippers of jugg gear. Spending all their time in safe zones searching for some jugg to buy, or spamming MangledFury asking if he'll give some jugg. Last time the idea of a reset was mentioned everyone just about lost their minds. If this idea was going to happen the world might combust into flames for all those jugg worshippers.

That's why I don't think we can make TMD great again. Majority vote has been how the server makes big decisions like this. And I don't think the majority of the people would like this idea. Sadly. Theyd rather spend their days not having to face a challenge at all. Endlessly searching for more jugg. All I can do in my power is make the greatest TWD builds you've ever seen, and you guys just wait, the build team's got some crazy stuff coming. But yeah that's my take on stuff and things.

Absolutely wonderful.
Very well said and explained in great detail and I personally agreed with everything that you have stated.
Really begs the question if you're more than just a 'builder'?

 

[Tactical_Fox48]

I agree. I don't know when you started playing but the "good old days of tmd" consisted of:
-no jugg
-only like 10 people had infinite money (which was a great way to raise money for the server to get bigger, but is now a pretty big problem)
-painkillers were tough to come by, so we're tier 4 and 3 guns
-and I don't remember exactly how the walkers were.

I personally think the main thing thats ruined the server is jugg. Before jugg, when riot was the best armor, it was a lot harder to stay alive. During wars, it was all about skill and stealth, whoever could outsmart the other. Nowadays there's no skill involved at all, full juggs running around in their teams of 6 with golden everything, katana, spaz, and their 8 stacks of pains on hand, They never have to worry about stealth because no matter what, their armor+ pains will outlast anything. Today you win wars by either A.Having more people than the other team or B. Having longer jugg durability/pains.

Probably my favorite thing about riot gear is you don't have to be in riot gear to kill another riot. I've killed plenty of full riots with only a winchester and a combat knife (aka kit hunter). It's all about stealth and timing. I've tried doing the same to full juggs and no matter what, it's impossible. Doesn't matter how stealthy I am or how many hits I get on em first, his armor gives him enough time to locate me and one-shot me. Every time.

Now I realize I've been typing for like 10 minutes now jesus christ chill vc. So I'm gonna wrap this up, but I've been thinking about this idea for months to make TMD great again.
-Remove jugg
(Or if thats too far, do a reset and make it EXTREMELY rare)
-Remove all tier 4 guns, painkillers, and riot gear from the shops(this would make unlimited money not as OP)
-^That would also make the market for survivors a lot bigger because the value of those items would increase, so more people would go out looting for them, or buy crates as well.
-If jugg was completely removed, we'd have to find a way to compensate for all the pieces some people have been collecting for the past year. I'd say maybe make each piece tradeable for like 30k ingame cash? Idk something like that.

That's my idea, but It will only happen if enough people want it to. And I doubt the majority of the server would want to remove their precious jugg. Jugg gear was added in July of 2015 a year ago. And over the past year is when this server grew exponentially. More than half of the server have no idea what it was like before jugg. So all the thousands of noobs that have joined in the past year have became complete worshippers of jugg gear. Spending all their time in safe zones searching for some jugg to buy, or spamming MangledFury asking if he'll give some jugg. Last time the idea of a reset was mentioned everyone just about lost their minds. If this idea was going to happen the world might combust into flames for all those jugg worshippers.

That's why I don't think we can make TMD great again. Majority vote has been how the server makes big decisions like this. And I don't think the majority of the people would like this idea. Sadly. Theyd rather spend their days not having to face a challenge at all. Endlessly searching for more jugg. All I can do in my power is make the greatest TWD builds you've ever seen, and you guys just wait, the build team's got some crazy stuff coming. But yeah that's my take on stuff and things.

I LOVE the idea of removing Jugg, except it doesn't have to be on the regular servers. I think the Hardcore server being brought back would solve a lot of issues with Infinite Money holders, pain killers, Jugg, and tons of op weapons. That way there doesn't have to be a reset. "Jugg Worshipers" would not be overwhelmed with grief that all their Jugg armor and pain killers would have just disappeared (lol), and players who want a harder, more TWD like survival experience will get that.

If I'm correct, you guys are adding a quest system in Mine Wars. I was discussing this topic with Styxx_, and I think that if a quest system was added to TMD, this would make players work a lot more closely together to accomplish quests. Instead of the main characters from the comic/show being emotionless NPC vendors, they could be approached by players for quests, with each character having their own personality expressed through dialogue. There would be much more interaction within the community, as well as more of a relationship with the characters. It would also give the TMD servers something new to do, instead of just kill, loot, repeat.

Anyway, that's just what I thought. I really like all the ideas, but I just wanted to put in my own. Thanks for putting in the time to read my suggestions, if you did. XD

 

[Faded_Panda]

I LOVE the idea of removing Jugg, except it doesn't have to be on the regular servers. I think the Hardcore server being brought back would solve a lot of issues with Infinite Money holders, pain killers, Jugg, and tons of op weapons. That way there doesn't have to be a reset. "Jugg Worshipers" would not be overwhelmed with grief that all their Jugg armor and pain killers would have just disappeared (lol), and players who want a harder, more TWD like survival experience will get that.

If I'm correct, you guys are adding a quest system in Mine Wars. I was discussing this topic with Styxx_, and I think that if a quest system was added to TMD, this would make players work a lot more closely together to accomplish quests. Instead of the main characters from the comic/show being emotionless NPC vendors, they could be approached by players for quests, with each character having their own personality expressed through dialogue. There would be much more interaction within the community, as well as more of a relationship with the characters. It would also give the TMD servers something new to do, instead of just kill, loot, repeat.

Anyway, that's just what I thought. I really like all the ideas, but I just wanted to put in my own. Thanks for putting in the time to read my suggestions, if you did. XD

You are genius! Being able to interact with the npc in safezones for quests is a superb idea and would give objectives for a player to do for rewards such as crates or money. I think you should create a new thread about this, as its not too relevant about Jugg and so it has a higher chance of being read.

 

[Vertical_Kittens]

I agree remove Jugg, but why infinite? Let them stay lucky and have infinite I think it's a great idea for people to buy crates

i think that jugg should not be removed
won a war vs 3 jugg w/ full riot and 3 med kits and a m60 by my self you just need to be a better player than em to win

 

[Faded_Panda]

i think jugg that should not be removed
won a war vs 3 jugg w/ full riot and 3 med kits and a m60 by my self you just need to be a better player than em to win

The problem is, not everyone is pro and can pull off what you did. Removing jugg is about setting a more even playing field for both good and unskilled players.

 

[Vertical_Kittens]

#itallreadygrat

 

[Vertical_Kittens]

The problem is, not everyone is pro and can pull off what you did. Removing jugg is about setting a more even playing field for both good and unskilled players.

yeah i get it now

 

[_VC_]

I LOVE the idea of removing Jugg, except it doesn't have to be on the regular servers. I think the Hardcore server being brought back would solve a lot of issues with Infinite Money holders, pain killers, Jugg, and tons of op weapons. That way there doesn't have to be a reset. "Jugg Worshipers" would not be overwhelmed with grief that all their Jugg armor and pain killers would have just disappeared (lol), and players who want a harder, more TWD like survival experience will get that.

If I'm correct, you guys are adding a quest system in Mine Wars. I was discussing this topic with Styxx_, and I think that if a quest system was added to TMD, this would make players work a lot more closely together to accomplish quests. Instead of the main characters from the comic/show being emotionless NPC vendors, they could be approached by players for quests, with each character having their own personality expressed through dialogue. There would be much more interaction within the community, as well as more of a relationship with the characters. It would also give the TMD servers something new to do, instead of just kill, loot, repeat.

Anyway, that's just what I thought. I really like all the ideas, but I just wanted to put in my own. Thanks for putting in the time to read my suggestions, if you did. XD

Quests are going to be done in the future. Maybe later this summer. I like the idea of the hardcore server with no jugg, but I just don't see it being popular. The old hardcore server was an awesome idea but it was boring because only like 5 people played at a time. I just don't know if it would be popular enough. If jugg was removed on all servers it'd really show who's actually good and who's not. You'd be suprised at how many people aren't as good as their jugg gear says they are.

 

[_VC_]

jugg isnt the problem.. infinite is! if you can get as many stacks of pains as you want to its no problem to be better at pvp then player without or with less pains

That's why if we remove all tier 4 weapons from the shop including riot gear and pain killers it'd make infinite money much less OP. It'd also make those items more valuable which expands the market for people to sell stuff. A lot of people say "selling barret at berx, msg me" but no one's interested. Now if you remove it from the shop, everyone will be interested, especially all the rich immortals of the server. That would work with any thing that gets removed from the shop. A lot of survivors complain about how hard it is to get money. Well here ya go. Make the market bigger and bam. Imagine all the painkiller vendors that would pop up, as well as barrets, spaz, m60's, etc...

 

[Tactical_Fox48]

Quests are going to be done in the future. Maybe later this summer. I like the idea of the hardcore server with no jugg, but I just don't see it being popular. The old hardcore server was an awesome idea but it was boring because only like 5 people played at a time. I just don't know if it would be popular enough. If jugg was removed on all servers it'd really show who's actually good and who's not. You'd be suprised at how many people aren't as good as their jugg gear says they are.

I know about those players, but I'm just saying that if you do remove Jugg, there's probably going to be a decrease in people playing TMD. With a separate server, you can keep a lot of players from being mad that something is either removed or not implemented.

 

[Tactical_Fox48]

I'm very happy to hear that quests will be coming though!

 

[Tactical_Fox48]

That's why if we remove all tier 4 weapons from the shop including riot gear and pain killers it'd make infinite money much less OP. It'd also make those items more valuable which expands the market for people to sell stuff. A lot of people say "selling barret at berx, msg me" but no one's interested. Now if you remove it from the shop, everyone will be interested, especially all the rich immortals of the server. That would work with any thing that gets removed from the shop. A lot of survivors complain about how hard it is to get money. Well here ya go. Make the market bigger and bam. Imagine all the painkiller vendors that would pop up, as well as barrets, spaz, m60's, etc...

Removing certain items from the shop is a great idea, except I'm worried about the chat being spammed with offers when people do find these items elsewhere...