This Reset Bull

[_Aeroo]

This reset does need to happen. The economy is already over-inflated and full of duplicated gear. This gear gives players an unfair advantage over you, so a reset is good. We have not had a reset since August last year. That is over a year. It is not only ranked players who need this - it's everyone. Don't you hate it when you step outside a safezone just to get gunned down by a player who always seems to have an absurd amount of legendary gear? This reset will set an even playing field for everyone in the beginning. We will all start with the same balance, no one will get to keep any other gear or money, and we all get to restart at the same time. I'll be honest, it'll be a little easier for ranked players to get started as they spawn with better kits - but it isn't much of an advantage if you're a skilled player who knows the map hot-spots. Ranked players do not have a massive advantage, and if you get ontop of it fast - you may even beat them at replacing your lost gear. Duplicated items are a perfect reason to reset. If we don't reset now, the situation will only get worse and worse until we have absolutely no choice but to reset. Even then, players will be angry about it. What else can we do? We need to reset.

I'm almost certain that you've seen duplicated items before. It's likely that more than half of the juggernaut gear in the economy right now is duplicated. If you find broken duplicated items, it's likely that the glitch has already been fixed so obviously they won't work. If someone traded you a random piece of jugg, how would you know if it's duped or not? You can't know. We try to fix as many duplication glitches as possible, but they rarely get reported as players use it to their own advantage. Even when we fix the issue, it doesn't rid the server of the duplicated items. This reset will make it easier to track items, and if there is a sudden inflation in a certain item it would be obvious that there is an issue somewhere. If we leave it, it only allows players to dupe more. We have not had a reset in over a year, and even with all of the dupe glitches that have been patched, the economy continues to inflate. Players are finding these glitches faster than we can patch them, so ridding the server of all duped gear is the best we can do until we find more to patch.

There was a huge debate over whether we should have reset with the 1.9 update or not. Resetting would have made the update faster and easier for everyone, but we didn't do it just to please the players. Now, we need to reset. The majority is all for the reset, so we're going to do it. We can't please everyone, so we're going to please the majority.

If we made this reset option for each individual player, do you really think that players who dupe would reset? They wouldn't and that's the issue in the first place. Besides, what about the players who do chose to reset? They are set at a huge disadvantage because players will already be OP and the pro-reset people wouldn't stand a chance. If you think this reset is unfair, and individual reset would be even more unfair.

This reset is 100% necessary. You have a right to your opinion, but creating posts like this will not change anything. This reset is going to happen and it's something we all have to accept whether we like it or not. If it's something that you can't get passed, you may have to leave the server. As unfortunate as that is, it's the truth. This reset will even the playing field for everyone and no one will start with a huge advantage. Who knows? We may even disabled infinite money for the first few days of the reset, or disable Immortal kits for the first few days.

Also, you claim that that's "over 1000 crates going down the toilet." Have you previously used these crates and the items inside, and died with them? Because if so, those items are already gone and we didn't take them from you. Yes, you get to keep any kits you may have - no matter how you got them. I hope this clears up any confusions you may have and helps you understand the importance of this reset. Thank you for understanding. c:

I'd like my stats to be reset with the reset

 

[Redbommer]

I've just read this through I see where you are coming from, I'm in the same situation as you as I've only just got hardcore rank however let me just go over some points here: the havoc community itself has boomed, and I mean BOOMED when I first started playing only about 200 players were on at any given point, now if you check the player counted on the forums there over 700 players on and player at this minuet! And there's even more in different time zones who are offline so with this in mind the economy within TMD has boomed as well, with all the new ranked/unranked players who have joined alittle late they probably already have at least a couple sets of jugg horded away, jugg is meant to be legendary not common if that makes any sence? On the other hand it's not all about jugg, the other thing getting reset is the money every player has, and this goes back to the economy growing figure, with these 700+ players they will be bringing even more money into this already boom financial economy, about the duped items thing there was a big glitch about duping weapons, cars and armour which then was sold that's why there's so much money within the server at the minuet. If restarts don't happen the economy will continue to grow out of control and the next thing we know everyone has duffles upon duffels of jugg and legendaies and everyone will have millions, this will lead to the server been the same old thing over and over again every time you log on, with the restart it then adds the ambition of getting rich again or the consept of actually looting places and it'll add the thrilling skilled pvp back not just pain pumping. Like Unknown just said the restart is 100% but again this is your opinion but the restart has been confirmed and will be happening so instead of posting angry threads maybe start to plan out where to loot first e.c.t. Hope this has cleared a few things up for you but feel free to message me or one of the staff if you have any more questions or quieries

... yup that 'bout sums it up

 

[Snek87]

That's what they always tell us. That the game's gotten too easy, and a reset's due.

Look I will be honest, I would really like a reset. I have all this spare stuff that just makes me look like a I've spent my whole life on this server and other op gear; Restarting wouldn't be such an awful idea. Just as long as no ranks are reseted, $60 isn't cheap you know.

Other than that i like the points you make.

 

[Cactiee]

This reset doesn't even need to happen, but every year we're told that the ranked people need it. The donators need it. Every year we have to do this. What about us no-ranked poor Joes who work all year to get half decent #### only to have it stripped away and have to rebuild? The only excuses I hear for the reset are about duping and resorting for new items.

Duping, I've never seen. I've been around awhile. The only duped items I ever saw were duped cars and weapons that didn't work. Any duped items are completely broken, from my experience. I'm pretty sure they patched it too because I haven't seen any duped items in months. And even if there were still duping, wiping inventories and vaults wouldn't help unless the dupe glitch is patched. If we just leave it be, eventually the server will rid itself of the duped items because players die, loot is lost, the ground items get cleared, all of it. All we need to stop dupes is a patch on whatever lets players dupe.

And resorting for new items isn't nescessary. In the 1.9 update, the largest item-related update to date, we didn't even reset inventories. We had dozens of new items but had no need for a reset. Why is now so different?

We aren't having a massive, gamechanging update, just a map update to adjust things for more realism. What's keeping us from storing everyone's inventories in each server's spawn worlds so that they can clear them or keep them by choice and use them when they enter back into the new world?

This reset is totally unnescessary, and has always been unfair to people who don't have infinite money, don't have a rank, and have to loot for every item they have. I think that there's absolutely no need for any sort of reset.

i dont like the reset too tbh fudge those ppl wants reset they just salty about what we get we work hard on our juggs/money/legends..

 

[drewey09]

I like how you categorize all the ranked players and have the same opinion of them. WE AREN'T THE SAME PERSON. Ranked players are completely differen't from one another and do differen't things. I am a hardcore and I have vowed to never buy things from safezones, ever. I don't have an advantage, I have a different kit that I could use, but that's it. I mean if you honestly think the kits are that unfair I will BUY you a lot of your choice, that way it is fair. Not all ranked people play the same way.

The second thing I have to say is, if we never had a reset the server would be boring, everyone would have everything, new players would instantly die, and it just wouldn't be fun. They aren't doing the reset to harm the server or mess with players, they are doing it to benefit it. I understand that you are upset about loosing items, but a lot of the pro reset players are loosing a lot aswell. I mean, this reset also gives new players a chance. Currently new players who like to pvp can't go to good locations to get gear. Places like the CDC, Alexandria, and Woodbury are always full of jugg people so new players have no chance. But with this reset it gives them a chance to be able to go there. It also is bringing a new map, and the people that ruled the server will no longer rule it. You clearly have a lot of experience in the field so you will become great really fast. It's just a good thing and a fresh start.

Anyways I hope you enjoyed my thoughts.

 

[verenity_]

I like how you categorize all the ranked players and have the same opinion of them. WE AREN'T THE SAME PERSON. Ranked players are completely differen't from one another and do differen't things. I am a hardcore and I have vowed to never buy things from safezones, ever. I don't have an advantage, I have a different kit that I could use, but that's it. I mean if you honestly think the kits are that unfair I will BUY you a lot of your choice, that way it is fair. Not all ranked people play the same way.

The second thing I have to say is, if we never had a reset the server would be boring, everyone would have everything, new players would instantly die, and it just wouldn't be fun. They aren't doing the reset to harm the server or mess with players, they are doing it to benefit it. I understand that you are upset about loosing items, but a lot of the pro reset players are loosing a lot aswell. I mean, this reset also gives new players a chance. Currently new players who like to pvp can't go to good locations to get gear. Places like the CDC, Alexandria, and Woodbury are always full of jugg people so new players have no chance. But with this reset it gives them a chance to be able to go there. It also is bringing a new map, and the people that ruled the server will no longer rule it. You clearly have a lot of experience in the field so you will become great really fast. It's just a good thing and a fresh start.

Anyways I hope you enjoyed my thoughts.

Well said, I do agree that it is starting to get boring.

 

[StephenPeters]

As a ranked player I have to agree with drewey. The actual advantages for the rankers are not that noticeable. However personally I do feel Lee and i admit that the reset upsets me somehow and I can see why some players are complaining. Now as I said before, the reset can't be simply judeged to be whatever "good" or "bad", so the only thing we can do to make ourselves feel better is to thinking positively about the reset.

P.S. Lee, hate to see you leaving again. i really wish that we don't lost another good player ;-;

 

[BenSmart112]

As a ranked player I have to agree with drewey. The actual advantages for the rankers are not that noticeable. However personally I do feel Lee and i admit that the reset upsets me somehow and I can see why some players are complaining. Now as I said before, the reset can't be simply judeged to be whatever "good" or "bad", so the only thing we can do to make ourselves feel better is to thinking positively about the reset.

P.S. Lee, hate to see you leaving again. i really wish that we don't lost another good player ;-;

I'm not leaving this time. I'm playing until the end.

 

[ArmenTheHeli]

also, i have god rank and i rarely use ledgends for pvp i mostly sell em

same legends are boring (other than gats and maybe flamers)

 

[ArmenTheHeli]

That's what they always tell us. That the game's gotten too easy, and a reset's due.

I don't need a reset (burns all jugg and legends other than gats and flamers)

 

[BenSmart112]

I don't need a reset (burns all jugg and legends other than gats and flamers)

Same.

 

[StephenPeters]

I'm not leaving this time. I'm playing until the end.

This is a good news After all, the least thing this server needs is losing another good player.