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    4Chins

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    So here we go, another massive ****storm that this post will generate. Sound's fun? Alright, here it goes.

    I've been playing this server for a decent time, first logged on december 2014. I started playing like an average non, looting random places and killing players i came across. The server used to be extremely laggy back then and there wasn't a whole lot of players online, but it was still extremely fun. The community wasn't really centered around drama and was more about a few cursewords and "1v1 me irl" types of chats that usally died down in a few minutes. Most players that view themselves as relevant today also started playing around this time. This stage of the server had a lot of ups and downs.
    The main downside was the insanely horrible lag and the frequent crashes caused by more then 40 people being online at the same time. Not many other downsides were really that bad, The few people that had the knowledge to hack used mostly free clients that didn't make a lot of a difference in pvp. Staff abuse wasn't a big thing here except Jewishbagel, (why do i even have to mention that guy) The few toxic people that were considered toxic at this time would be considered reincarnates of Jesus Christ on todays tmd.
    The good sides were However : Fairly balanced pvp and painkillers, much less of a p2w then today, the 1.7 map that wasn't nearly as detailed as the map we know today but it was easy to orientate on it. (Example: Jump from berx, go across the hills and grab up at hartsfield, go to alex and then war it out) and it was much smaller, making travel faster.
    In short, a decent time period in my book.

    In mid-late 2015

    Here Come the changes, First the server gets its hardware upgraded, basically eliminating most of the lag and a bit later basic 3D guns replace the aging 2D models. Most people were extremely hyped for this change let me add. Aside from this there is a lot of new people playing the server and start to form actual teams. /teams wasn't added yet so friendly fire and people throwing mollies on teammates was a common way to meme people. I personally was with Sparta's team during this time period. There is starting to be drama but it is really only 1-2 people on the server doing that sort of stuff, The rest of the trashtalking is still mostly the "1v1 me irl" type. However this is the point where players really start to hate staff members, mostly because of the abuse jewishbagel is doing and a few other mods aswell. Prison wars become more and more common, the old pvp system is still in place, jugg wasn't yet added and you could buy infinite in the shop, and you still had the insanely horrid looking "cars". I personally think this was the golden age of TMD.

    Late 2015-early 2016.
    This is the point where i personally think something started to go wrong, sort of a bomb that started ticking in a plane. In late 2015 the immortal rank is announced. Another rank, not really a big deal to most of the people i talked to, maybe more 12 year olds that can use mommys card. Then alongside with it they announce jugg. We were hyped for this armor because we thought it was going to add more flavor to pvp, and at first glance it seemed quite nice. If you had a jugg set in this time period, especially the first weeks you were basically a god. It was rather balanced, 3-4 Well aimed barret shots as opposed to 2-3 needed for riot made this armor an upgrade from riot. The main thing wasn't its protection that stood out, it was how intimidating it was for people in wars. If you were waring in riot and the team rolls out a jugg, you run and you run like hell. It was still very much balanced though, if you had a good team that knew what they were doing you could drop them with ease. Along with jugg came legendary weapons, Flamethrower, GBarret, Gdeag and i'm not sure if the gatgun came later. Everyone on my team wanted to get thier hands on these because they were quite powerful for riot wars, and it was mainly used by us to kill juggs.The "1 weapon type in the hotbar" thing is added and /team is added, it's buggy but it semi-works.
    So the immortal rank, what went wrong? First of all immortal rank basically made all other ranks useless. You had access to jugg, and mainly, legendary weapons basically for free. People that were able to fight off ranked players now found themselves not being able to fight at all. Wars became more and more centered around tryharding and if you brought along jugg or not. Since it "wouldnt be worth wasting time on riot" This is also the point that drama started to happen more and more and making more of the older players irritated. Staff abuse also exploded in this time period, since the server was getting more and more players, more staff was needed and most people that got accepted abused like hell. This time period is where the pay2win started to become a bit apparent. I think they should have stopped adding and tweaking things at this point.

    Mid-late 2016
    The things that i described above continue, Drama starts becoming more prevalent and a new type of players start coming to tmd, RPers/mineplexers/dramaqueens. Call then what you want, i hate them with a passion. Now jugg wasn't overpowered at this stage, but that changed when the pvp sytem got updated to become more "balanced". Yeah totally, to this day we can't agree to how the pvp should work because of this "balance". It was seriously fine up until this point, now people would kill eachother irl if they attempted debating how to "fix" the system that was made here. All i'm going to say. Overnight jugg became overpowered, and people started to practice clicking faster. Autoclickers started to pop up but it was a very very few people who did it. Pvp was changed but that was just the tip of the iceberg.
    Rank Merge and Newmap This is the point where TMD efficiently signed it's death warrant. The new map was something a lot of people looked forward too, since the old map was basically boring after being used for such a long time, And this too sparked a debate that lasts to this day and that nobody will ever agree on. Now about the Rank merging. This is the one move that basically sealed the fate of TMD. This move basically drew a line between non-ranked and lower ranked players and high ranked ones, sort of like staff and players. Before this merge it was still a line, but it wasnt really visible. Now after this change, non-ranked players started to leave or they donated so they wouldn't be stomped over. Teams started to have rank criterias, "good" crates were only avalible for Mythicals/Titans, lower ranked people had to upgrade or basically start to take all kinds of crap. This move alone was bad but the other distinct thing that made this really bad was that, remember those "new typed of players" i mentioned above? They bought in on these ranks and and basically made people that weren't into this sort of drama **** to start adapting to them. And most of these people that started this also started hacking since old players usally just viped the floor with them. Autoclicking started to become prevalent and players who hated this kept quiet and slowly started leaving since they were just told to "suck it up, its new times". Staff abuse was still a big thing, and it became worse when these RPers got staff and basically sided with thier teams when it came to punishing people. I personally left when this happened, since most of my team had left and there was no reason to play something that was only causing me to lose no matter the skill.

    Early-Mid-late 2017:

    Players slowly started leaving. The new map was still in place, and players that were getting trashed moved to tmd-3/tmd-4 so they they could still play the game, and then slowly started leaving that aswell.
    The amount of drama was so much that even mineplex lobby-1 tier chat was nothing compared to it.
    Berx was still the main center for pvp as it has always been, but the fights that happened were always between mythical teams and not like it used to be, with old random non-ranked/low ranked players against other random players It was about "whos got the better hacks/Who is clicking faster" When random players that decided to team up against one ego-team and challenge them every other big famous team went after them. Tmd after this point would only decay more and more.

    2018
    Theres less and less players per week now, People who left because they have no chance are joined by players who are fed up with the drama and hackers. Barely anyone except high ranked self-proclaimed "relevant" people play. And anyone who disagrees with these people is literally met with toxicity that is worse then the radiation in chernobyl. Players who decide to challence these people get teamed up on by the whole server. The whole server is basically dead.

    I'm not going to lie, i don't think TMD will see 2019. I think it's far too late to do anything anymore for this, the main reason being that the people who play only want themselves ontop and not the server or other players too. Suggestions that could atleast do something are ignored. And most of the playerbase are fed up, theres ddos threats, dox threats, hackers and closerhackers, everything is toxic and there is more fakedrama then in a spanish telenovella. I loved this server when i started playing it, and i managed to go along without a rank to this day. But i think TMD is going to die soon and nothing can be done about it. This isn't a "im quitting" post. it's just the sad state of tmd and a tale from my perspective on this server this far.
     
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    Twqntys

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    I know a way to fix it and I know I will just be called stupid and disrespectful etc. I mean honestly I can name up to 10 glitches that are easily fixable and which I've reported sooo many times. I also like to add that staff is mentally challenged, yes take the offense, almost half of my team is or was false banned by a certain staff member going by the name of Kendrq who apparently also hates to read dms or actually go look at the history and full story before banning someone (me). I had a way of reviving the server by bringing a 56K YouTuber by the name of "Kenzoo" since I'm his plot/basebuilder and we talk a lot. Before I was banned I was talking to him about havoc and he was genuinely interested, this was until a day later I got false banned, after that two days later my friend XanDeeHee gets false banned. Note this was all Kendrq, boy do I love this namecalling. Alright where were we... Oh right Kenzoo, he was interested in the server and wanted to play since the staff was finally acting up and actually doing their jobs and he was probably even going to do it for free since he really liked the gamemode.

    Now let's leave that apart and move on to all of the updates that have happened, all of the gun updates and stuff weren't even too bad, it was the map that ruined it. Every time the map gets updated, about half of the OG's come back and then stops again after half a week since it's simply not fun with all the new meta's and glitches and exploits. I get it, the build team spends a lot of time on it (almost everyone but Tqns who has a big gae) and you want to keep the map synchronized with the show blablabla but as a server you should also take in account that a server needs players for it to be fun. Every time the map gets updated, it will bring back the "OG's" who will just infest the server with toxicity. Now I play HCF so I've seen a lot of toxicity but Havoc really is worse than HCF. I gotta be honest I am part of the problem but I'm also willing to be part of the solution.

    Back to the staff point since there's still 1 point I'd like to add. Fix the staff team, I've messaged 4 staff members on discord and none of them have replied... If you get a staff team at least make sure it's a competent one. The only excuses I've heard so far were "We have a social life as well", well if your social life is in the of being a good staff member, then maybe resign... If I'd get Kenzoo on here it would bring a lot of players and I can name several good staff members who would play it...
     

    Bulleteater

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    I know a way to fix it and I know I will just be called stupid and disrespectful etc. I mean honestly I can name up to 10 glitches that are easily fixable and which I've reported sooo many times. I also like to add that staff is mentally challenged, yes take the offense, almost half of my team is or was false banned by a certain staff member going by the name of Kendrq who apparently also hates to read dms or actually go look at the history and full story before banning someone (me). I had a way of reviving the server by bringing a 56K YouTuber by the name of "Kenzoo" since I'm his plot/basebuilder and we talk a lot. Before I was banned I was talking to him about havoc and he was genuinely interested, this was until a day later I got false banned, after that two days later my friend XanDeeHee gets false banned. Note this was all Kendrq, boy do I love this namecalling. Alright where were we... Oh right Kenzoo, he was interested in the server and wanted to play since the staff was finally acting up and actually doing their jobs and he was probably even going to do it for free since he really liked the gamemode.

    Now let's leave that apart and move on to all of the updates that have happened, all of the gun updates and stuff weren't even too bad, it was the map that ruined it. Every time the map gets updated, about half of the OG's come back and then stops again after half a week since it's simply not fun with all the new meta's and glitches and exploits. I get it, the build team spends a lot of time on it (almost everyone but Tqns who has a big gae) and you want to keep the map synchronized with the show blablabla but as a server you should also take in account that a server needs players for it to be fun. Every time the map gets updated, it will bring back the "OG's" who will just infest the server with toxicity. Now I play HCF so I've seen a lot of toxicity but Havoc really is worse than HCF. I gotta be honest I am part of the problem but I'm also willing to be part of the solution.

    Back to the staff point since there's still 1 point I'd like to add. Fix the staff team, I've messaged 4 staff members on discord and none of them have replied... If you get a staff team at least make sure it's a competent one. The only excuses I've heard so far were "We have a social life as well", well if your social life is in the of being a good staff member, then maybe resign... If I'd get Kenzoo on here it would bring a lot of players and I can name several good staff members who would play it...
    I’d argue Kendra is one of the only good staff left, along with Beasty & Beetley.
     

    Octaviene

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    Honestly, the staff team’s claims to having experience is what pisses me off the most.
    I am an ex moderator on another server which I can’t name here, and even as just a moderator there, I’ve seen a much better staff team than what we have here?
    Honestly? Taking the time to cool off? The last thing a staff member should be doing is to be taking player insults to heart. You think otherwise? If you can’t grow a thick skin, you aren’t ready to be staff.
    Then comes this ridiculous claim that staff on here understand the PvP. I had to restrain myself very very hard not to start questioning her regarding that. Any good server, (except for the last server I played with my gang which also had a poor staff team), will understand the concept of perceived reach and client reach, which is the result of differing ping across the server, the hit, the recipient, and the spectator. All four perspectives are different, and yet my Friend EthanAndHila gets banned for this:
    Through a simple demonstration of a very basic PvP concept, I got him unbanned.
    The staff team claims to know what they are doing, yet they struggle to comprehend a very basic concept of PvP and require “further looking into” in spite of an extremely detailed explanation by myself.
    They take forever to perform a 2-3 minute tasking, the unbanning of Ethan taking a full day, (Twqntys messages Kendra and got a reply to prove that she wasn’t afk/busy), this just proves that they are lazy.
    In my conversation, I even included timestamps and the total clips amount to no more than 40 seconds.
    You may argue that staff have their own lives as well, but may I remind you that players have our own lives as well? Every 5 minutes Kendra decided to spend sipping her tea and taking her time over something I had thoroughly explained without flaw was 5 minutes that a falsebanned player couldn’t hang out with his friends.
    Aside from just the sheer incompetence and lack of gameplay knowledge, I must address the arrogance as well. This is one of the most disgusting traits any staff member can have. There is nothing worse as a staff member than pretending you know what you are doing, and being unwilling to admit it so. If you suck, it’s fine. People will help you. You just need to open up and not be afraid to reason and find the flaws in your judgement. That way, you’ll be able to fix those flaws the next time a similar situation rolls around. Arrogance above all else is the unwillingness to converse respectfully with people of lower “rank” than you. No one exercises this more clearly than AlphaDemonQueen. Refer to the screenshots. How do you think you make your players feel when you speak in code language that only you understand? When you ask them to do things and they have no idea why they are doing them? “Reasons”. As if I’m not entitled to know why I’m being asked certain things. Perhaps that is the way things work on this server, but bring this attitude to a real working environment and I guarantee that you will lose all your employees within the first two months.
    Lastly, the pure inefficiency.
    I have been waiting for a week to get responses from Beetley, Kendra and Alpha regarding the ban of XanDeeHee.
    I messaged Kendra three days after Twqntys started being ignored by her, and when she responded to me, it was pretty evident that she didn’t intend to respond to him.
    Now I’ve just been sitting here like an idiot, looking at chat channels in which I’m just waiting for responses. Am I an idiot for having too much faith in the staff team? Maybe.
    Let me couple that with the fact that my Friend UprisingMax has been ss’d twice by Beasty, two consecutive days in a row. Wonder why he doesn’t play anymore? Because he’s sick of being pulled aside for 2 hours constantly and without warning or reason. SS’s shouldn’t take as long as they did. Furthermore, Beasty didn’t allow me to join the call to see if he actually knew what he was doing. Everyone on here honestly seems to think they know what they are doing, lmao. Yet I’ve never been disproved in any of the claims I’ve made. I’ve always either been right, or disregarded by said people. I think the server needs better staff.
    Also, along the lines of the ban of XanDeeHee.
    This is the topic on which I have received 0 response on from Beetley, Alpha and Kendra. With Ethan, at least I had a video to disprove, but when I’m not even given the evidence used to ban them (of course, why should I? I’m just a moderator of three years experience on a large factions server who can hold his **** in longer than most of the staff team on Havoc before breaking into tears crying for mummy), how can I possibly help my friend to appeal if I am not even aware of what has been used to ban him. I have seen a single video, linked here:
    With absolutely no in game evidence of him even looking suspicious? Shira told me that there was in game evidence, but was unable to give it to me because only Kendra has it, and she didn’t give it to me because why? Perhaps the staff team is just too busy to endure me busting another one of their unjust bans. But honestly, this is ridiculours. A ban entirely based around what was on one’s computer, without any in game footage at all? I hear this footage exists, but nobody has it. If someone does, I would like to see it. Or you know what, just keep XanDeeHee banned. The server has completely died. TMDC used to be two sides of a war, my team vs everyone else, and the occasional prodigy. Brian has quit, and there’s really no reason to come back. No one to war.
    Maybe the owners intended for this, idk, ban their most active players and give them no chance to appeal because none of the staff members respond to dms, and the few that do aren’t able to help at all. No one on the staff team has any initiative. I’ve to constantly be the one making suggestions, finding new possibilities to explain certain scenarios. They don’t understand basic PvP concepts like the perception of ping. They are lazy, they are unprofessional, they can’t take insults, and they think they are a good staff team.
    So, staff team, are you going to lock this thread? To disregard it like all the other things you have? If you do, then you’ve proven me absolutely right, because someone who knows their **** and knows how to deal with people like me wouldn’t run from the effort and strain of doing so. But of course with all of your extremely busy lives (which I most certainly believe are legitimate), you will probably just ignore the existence of this thread and let TMD continue to rot. I mean, nobody cares about the server anymore, amirite?
     

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    4Chins

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    Honestly, the staff team’s claims to having experience is what pisses me off the most.
    I am an ex moderator on another server which I can’t name here, and even as just a moderator there, I’ve seen a much better staff team than what we have here?
    Honestly? Taking the time to cool off? The last thing a staff member should be doing is to be taking player insults to heart. You think otherwise? If you can’t grow a thick skin, you aren’t ready to be staff.
    Then comes this ridiculous claim that staff on here understand the PvP. I had to restrain myself very very hard not to start questioning her regarding that. Any good server, (except for the last server I played with my gang which also had a poor staff team), will understand the concept of perceived reach and client reach, which is the result of differing ping across the server, the hit, the recipient, and the spectator. All four perspectives are different, and yet my Friend EthanAndHila gets banned for this:
    Through a simple demonstration of a very basic PvP concept, I got him unbanned.
    The staff team claims to know what they are doing, yet they struggle to comprehend a very basic concept of PvP and require “further looking into” in spite of an extremely detailed explanation by myself.
    They take forever to perform a 2-3 minute tasking, the unbanning of Ethan taking a full day, (Twqntys messages Kendra and got a reply to prove that she wasn’t afk/busy), this just proves that they are lazy.
    In my conversation, I even included timestamps and the total clips amount to no more than 40 seconds.
    You may argue that staff have their own lives as well, but may I remind you that players have our own lives as well? Every 5 minutes Kendra decided to spend sipping her tea and taking her time over something I had thoroughly explained without flaw was 5 minutes that a falsebanned player couldn’t hang out with his friends.
    Aside from just the sheer incompetence and lack of gameplay knowledge, I must address the arrogance as well. This is one of the most disgusting traits any staff member can have. There is nothing worse as a staff member than pretending you know what you are doing, and being unwilling to admit it so. If you suck, it’s fine. People will help you. You just need to open up and not be afraid to reason and find the flaws in your judgement. That way, you’ll be able to fix those flaws the next time a similar situation rolls around. Arrogance above all else is the unwillingness to converse respectfully with people of lower “rank” than you. No one exercises this more clearly than AlphaDemonQueen. Refer to the screenshots. How do you think you make your players feel when you speak in code language that only you understand? When you ask them to do things and they have no idea why they are doing them? “Reasons”. As if I’m not entitled to know why I’m being asked certain things. Perhaps that is the way things work on this server, but bring this attitude to a real working environment and I guarantee that you will lose all your employees within the first two months.
    Lastly, the pure inefficiency.
    I have been waiting for a week to get responses from Beetley, Kendra and Alpha regarding the ban of XanDeeHee.
    I messaged Kendra three days after Twqntys started being ignored by her, and when she responded to me, it was pretty evident that she didn’t intend to respond to him.
    Now I’ve just been sitting here like an idiot, looking at chat channels in which I’m just waiting for responses. Am I an idiot for having too much faith in the staff team? Maybe.
    Let me couple that with the fact that my Friend UprisingMax has been ss’d twice by Beasty, two consecutive days in a row. Wonder why he doesn’t play anymore? Because he’s sick of being pulled aside for 2 hours constantly and without warning or reason. SS’s shouldn’t take as long as they did. Furthermore, Beasty didn’t allow me to join the call to see if he actually knew what he was doing. Everyone on here honestly seems to think they know what they are doing, lmao. Yet I’ve never been disproved in any of the claims I’ve made. I’ve always either been right, or disregarded by said people. I think the server needs better staff.
    Also, along the lines of the ban of XanDeeHee.
    This is the topic on which I have received 0 response on from Beetley, Alpha and Kendra. With Ethan, at least I had a video to disprove, but when I’m not even given the evidence used to ban them (of course, why should I? I’m just a moderator of three years experience on a large factions server who can hold his **** in longer than most of the staff team on Havoc before breaking into tears crying for mummy), how can I possibly help my friend to appeal if I am not even aware of what has been used to ban him. I have seen a single video, linked here:
    With absolutely no in game evidence of him even looking suspicious? Shira told me that there was in game evidence, but was unable to give it to me because only Kendra has it, and she didn’t give it to me because why? Perhaps the staff team is just too busy to endure me busting another one of their unjust bans. But honestly, this is ridiculours. A ban entirely based around what was on one’s computer, without any in game footage at all? I hear this footage exists, but nobody has it. If someone does, I would like to see it. Or you know what, just keep XanDeeHee banned. The server has completely died. TMDC used to be two sides of a war, my team vs everyone else, and the occasional prodigy. Brian has quit, and there’s really no reason to come back. No one to war.
    Maybe the owners intended for this, idk, ban their most active players and give them no chance to appeal because none of the staff members respond to dms, and the few that do aren’t able to help at all. No one on the staff team has any initiative. I’ve to constantly be the one making suggestions, finding new possibilities to explain certain scenarios. They don’t understand basic PvP concepts like the perception of ping. They are lazy, they are unprofessional, they can’t take insults, and they think they are a good staff team.
    So, staff team, are you going to lock this thread? To disregard it like all the other things you have? If you do, then you’ve proven me absolutely right, because someone who knows their **** and knows how to deal with people like me wouldn’t run from the effort and strain of doing so. But of course with all of your extremely busy lives (which I most certainly believe are legitimate), you will probably just ignore the existence of this thread and let TMD continue to rot. I mean, nobody cares about the server anymore, amirite?

    You know the staff is bad when i would make a better staff member then the existing ones. And i constantly death threat and rape threat in calls, and want to blow up half the world if i had the chance...Really makes me think
     

    Jahango

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    The EthanAndHila kid was cheating I remember fighting him and I know he was using reach or melee hacks of some sort.
     

    4Chins

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    The EthanAndHila kid was cheating I remember fighting him and I know he was using reach or melee hacks of some sort.
    Didn't you also call me out on KA 3 times? If you call me out of all people on Ka then i doubht your observations are anything reliable. Have a nice day. :)
     

    Katitude

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    Honestly, the staff team’s claims to having experience is what pisses me off the most.
    I am an ex moderator on another server which I can’t name here, and even as just a moderator there, I’ve seen a much better staff team than what we have here?
    Honestly? Taking the time to cool off? The last thing a staff member should be doing is to be taking player insults to heart. You think otherwise? If you can’t grow a thick skin, you aren’t ready to be staff.
    Then comes this ridiculous claim that staff on here understand the PvP. I had to restrain myself very very hard not to start questioning her regarding that. Any good server, (except for the last server I played with my gang which also had a poor staff team), will understand the concept of perceived reach and client reach, which is the result of differing ping across the server, the hit, the recipient, and the spectator. All four perspectives are different, and yet my Friend EthanAndHila gets banned for this:
    Through a simple demonstration of a very basic PvP concept, I got him unbanned.
    The staff team claims to know what they are doing, yet they struggle to comprehend a very basic concept of PvP and require “further looking into” in spite of an extremely detailed explanation by myself.
    They take forever to perform a 2-3 minute tasking, the unbanning of Ethan taking a full day, (Twqntys messages Kendra and got a reply to prove that she wasn’t afk/busy), this just proves that they are lazy.
    In my conversation, I even included timestamps and the total clips amount to no more than 40 seconds.
    You may argue that staff have their own lives as well, but may I remind you that players have our own lives as well? Every 5 minutes Kendra decided to spend sipping her tea and taking her time over something I had thoroughly explained without flaw was 5 minutes that a falsebanned player couldn’t hang out with his friends.
    Aside from just the sheer incompetence and lack of gameplay knowledge, I must address the arrogance as well. This is one of the most disgusting traits any staff member can have. There is nothing worse as a staff member than pretending you know what you are doing, and being unwilling to admit it so. If you suck, it’s fine. People will help you. You just need to open up and not be afraid to reason and find the flaws in your judgement. That way, you’ll be able to fix those flaws the next time a similar situation rolls around. Arrogance above all else is the unwillingness to converse respectfully with people of lower “rank” than you. No one exercises this more clearly than AlphaDemonQueen. Refer to the screenshots. How do you think you make your players feel when you speak in code language that only you understand? When you ask them to do things and they have no idea why they are doing them? “Reasons”. As if I’m not entitled to know why I’m being asked certain things. Perhaps that is the way things work on this server, but bring this attitude to a real working environment and I guarantee that you will lose all your employees within the first two months.
    Lastly, the pure inefficiency.
    I have been waiting for a week to get responses from Beetley, Kendra and Alpha regarding the ban of XanDeeHee.
    I messaged Kendra three days after Twqntys started being ignored by her, and when she responded to me, it was pretty evident that she didn’t intend to respond to him.
    Now I’ve just been sitting here like an idiot, looking at chat channels in which I’m just waiting for responses. Am I an idiot for having too much faith in the staff team? Maybe.
    Let me couple that with the fact that my Friend UprisingMax has been ss’d twice by Beasty, two consecutive days in a row. Wonder why he doesn’t play anymore? Because he’s sick of being pulled aside for 2 hours constantly and without warning or reason. SS’s shouldn’t take as long as they did. Furthermore, Beasty didn’t allow me to join the call to see if he actually knew what he was doing. Everyone on here honestly seems to think they know what they are doing, lmao. Yet I’ve never been disproved in any of the claims I’ve made. I’ve always either been right, or disregarded by said people. I think the server needs better staff.
    Also, along the lines of the ban of XanDeeHee.
    This is the topic on which I have received 0 response on from Beetley, Alpha and Kendra. With Ethan, at least I had a video to disprove, but when I’m not even given the evidence used to ban them (of course, why should I? I’m just a moderator of three years experience on a large factions server who can hold his **** in longer than most of the staff team on Havoc before breaking into tears crying for mummy), how can I possibly help my friend to appeal if I am not even aware of what has been used to ban him. I have seen a single video, linked here:
    With absolutely no in game evidence of him even looking suspicious? Shira told me that there was in game evidence, but was unable to give it to me because only Kendra has it, and she didn’t give it to me because why? Perhaps the staff team is just too busy to endure me busting another one of their unjust bans. But honestly, this is ridiculours. A ban entirely based around what was on one’s computer, without any in game footage at all? I hear this footage exists, but nobody has it. If someone does, I would like to see it. Or you know what, just keep XanDeeHee banned. The server has completely died. TMDC used to be two sides of a war, my team vs everyone else, and the occasional prodigy. Brian has quit, and there’s really no reason to come back. No one to war.
    Maybe the owners intended for this, idk, ban their most active players and give them no chance to appeal because none of the staff members respond to dms, and the few that do aren’t able to help at all. No one on the staff team has any initiative. I’ve to constantly be the one making suggestions, finding new possibilities to explain certain scenarios. They don’t understand basic PvP concepts like the perception of ping. They are lazy, they are unprofessional, they can’t take insults, and they think they are a good staff team.
    So, staff team, are you going to lock this thread? To disregard it like all the other things you have? If you do, then you’ve proven me absolutely right, because someone who knows their **** and knows how to deal with people like me wouldn’t run from the effort and strain of doing so. But of course with all of your extremely busy lives (which I most certainly believe are legitimate), you will probably just ignore the existence of this thread and let TMD continue to rot. I mean, nobody cares about the server anymore, amirite?
    There isn't even a point of reading this, because it seems like an insult post. Do you think a player was unfairly banned? Message a staff member. If they say it's conclusive, you can try to find evidence that it's inconclusive, but that isn't likely. I'd say when it comes to bans, 95% of the time, the ban is legit. Most of the time, people think their teammates don't hack, so they get angry and hate on the staff team, when they didn't realize the ability that their teammates had in terms of hiding their hacks. Not every staff member is amazing, because nobody is perfect. Yes, it's cliche, but you can't argue that I am wrong on that. I agree that TMD is dying, no doubt about that. I have my speculations, and my theories. Trust me, the staff team isn't the problem you should be focusing on. I understand that you get angry when your friends are banned, and I didn't read any of your post so I don't want you bashing me and/or saying I am ignoring you and "proving your point"; there is no point to it, and it's not worth my time, nor yours.

    I was a Senior Moderator, and I've noticed biased players throughout my time. Kendra is a good staff member, but should work on communication, and the staff team should ensure that if she has a deep relationship/friendship with someone, she shouldn't be dealing with their ban. Other than that, she's pretty freaking great. I think communication is still an issue, especially since the former admin recently resigned; he was working on communication as well, and it may seem ironic due to his inactivity before he left, but I saw the time and effort he put into it. I also think that staff should practice their screensharing abilities more often.

    You may argue that staff have their own lives as well, but may I remind you that players have our own lives as well? Every 5 minutes Kendra decided to spend sipping her tea and taking her time over something I had thoroughly explained without flaw was 5 minutes that a falsebanned player couldn’t hang out with his friends.

    You're trying to make a staff member look bad because you're having a prissy fit. If a falsely banned player was encountering the inability to join the server, and Kendra took over 1-2 days without response, another staff member would have to take it over. (At least that's how I remember it before I resigned) Calling staff members out just makes you look bad; I understand if you're frustrated, you want to let others know about the irritation you've endeavored because you truly don't think a staff member is good enough, then you're speaking with the wrong audience. That's for the owners, or beetley to handle. If they don't, contact me and I will make sure the message goes through, due to communication issues among the team. If you have a concern with a staff member, bring up all the evidence, all the screenshots, and bring up their case; they will understand that you are concerned for the players, and it is okay to not like a staff member if you're worried that they will ban false players.

    I lightly skimmed your post, but I have to go soon, I may edit more text onto this later. Message me privately (not on the forums) and I will take the time out of my day to personally help you out, explain procedures, and ensure that you are at least slightly more satisfied at the end, with more information regarding the experience you've gone through. I'm sorry that you're frustrated, and yes I'm not staff; I can still help you out, and it's better than nothing. (My weekend is pretty clear as far as I know)

    You don't need to "roast" people, and you don't need to throw out name calling. I understand your concern, and I can introduce you to the more mature way of addressing your issues and concerns.

    I could write for hours and list everything you write, and write a response for it all; I'm not going to do that. I'm not here to argue, and I want to be time efficient, focusing on the things that matter.

    ~ Katitude
     

    DDENGAR

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    This is a good thread. There was alot of things that made me nod my head.

    If you were banned multiple times, you really have no position to complain, we don't need any more of that trash coming back on this server.

    Ofc unless you were false banned.
     
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    Octaviene

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    There isn't even a point of reading this, because it seems like an insult post. Do you think a player was unfairly banned? Message a staff member. If they say it's conclusive, you can try to find evidence that it's inconclusive, but that isn't likely. I'd say when it comes to bans, 95% of the time, the ban is legit. Most of the time, people think their teammates don't hack, so they get angry and hate on the staff team, when they didn't realize the ability that their teammates had in terms of hiding their hacks. Not every staff member is amazing, because nobody is perfect. Yes, it's cliche, but you can't argue that I am wrong on that. I agree that TMD is dying, no doubt about that. I have my speculations, and my theories. Trust me, the staff team isn't the problem you should be focusing on. I understand that you get angry when your friends are banned, and I didn't read any of your post so I don't want you bashing me and/or saying I am ignoring you and "proving your point"; there is no point to it, and it's not worth my time, nor yours.

    I was a Senior Moderator, and I've noticed biased players throughout my time. Kendra is a good staff member, but should work on communication, and the staff team should ensure that if she has a deep relationship/friendship with someone, she shouldn't be dealing with their ban. Other than that, she's pretty freaking great. I think communication is still an issue, especially since the former admin recently resigned; he was working on communication as well, and it may seem ironic due to his inactivity before he left, but I saw the time and effort he put into it. I also think that staff should practice their screensharing abilities more often.

    You may argue that staff have their own lives as well, but may I remind you that players have our own lives as well? Every 5 minutes Kendra decided to spend sipping her tea and taking her time over something I had thoroughly explained without flaw was 5 minutes that a falsebanned player couldn’t hang out with his friends.

    You're trying to make a staff member look bad because you're having a prissy fit. If a falsely banned player was encountering the inability to join the server, and Kendra took over 1-2 days without response, another staff member would have to take it over. (At least that's how I remember it before I resigned) Calling staff members out just makes you look bad; I understand if you're frustrated, you want to let others know about the irritation you've endeavored because you truly don't think a staff member is good enough, then you're speaking with the wrong audience. That's for the owners, or beetley to handle. If they don't, contact me and I will make sure the message goes through, due to communication issues among the team. If you have a concern with a staff member, bring up all the evidence, all the screenshots, and bring up their case; they will understand that you are concerned for the players, and it is okay to not like a staff member if you're worried that they will ban false players.

    I lightly skimmed your post, but I have to go soon, I may edit more text onto this later. Message me privately (not on the forums) and I will take the time out of my day to personally help you out, explain procedures, and ensure that you are at least slightly more satisfied at the end, with more information regarding the experience you've gone through. I'm sorry that you're frustrated, and yes I'm not staff; I can still help you out, and it's better than nothing. (My weekend is pretty clear as far as I know)

    You don't need to "roast" people, and you don't need to throw out name calling. I understand your concern, and I can introduce you to the more mature way of addressing your issues and concerns.

    I could write for hours and list everything you write, and write a response for it all; I'm not going to do that. I'm not here to argue, and I want to be time efficient, focusing on the things that matter.

    ~ Katitude
    Nty, Friend. The more “mature” route has already been taken, and quite frankly, the lack of its effectiveness is what drove me to this action. Me and my crew will be picking our asses up and kicking *** elsewhere. Goodbye.
     

    Katitude

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    Nty, Friend. The more “mature” route has already been taken, and quite frankly, the lack of its effectiveness is what drove me to this action. Me and my crew will be picking our asses up and kicking *** elsewhere. Goodbye.
    *waves sarcastically*
     

    Draw4

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    Dear Adorable Staff Team,
    Can I be helper when my pc is done being fixed. Within 5-7 buisness days, I believe that’s appropriate amount of time to think about it. :)

    I farted again
     

    Jahango

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    Didn't you also call me out on KA 3 times? If you call me out of all people on Ka then i doubht your observations are anything reliable. Have a nice day. :)
    I don't remember calling you out for anything but maybe I have I am not 100% sure, I know hacks when I see them. Just because someone says they're legit does not mean ****, and ghost clients are a thing now so not everyone can be caught always. You're an imbecile if you think I don't know anything about hacks and what they look like.
     

    4Chins

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    Could we stop fighting? Yes i agree that most of the staff team looks like they won thier ranks on a chocolate wheel in a theme park. But still. And Katitude, when you said Kendra is a good staff member. Did you mean personality or how her attitude is towards being staff/How she handles it? Because personality always differs from actions. You can have someone who is a complete nice person but is bad at moderating, or you could bring in a literal psycho who swears every sentence but he does the moderation insanely well. About the "rants" Twqntys and Octavian made, they both messaged multiple staff members about this for over a week.
    And to all staff members. Instead of falsebanning people, not just my teammates but people who have the skill in general. Maybe look at your ranked teammates when they fight. Try fighting them on alts, you will be suprised.
     

    JT900

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    I guess I'll put in my input since it's that kind of post (and don't get me wrong, I love these).

    Staff members here aren't exactly competent. They unjustly ban/mute players at times, they never drive for results since they want to live their lives outside of the server they decided to work in, and some are seriously on a power trip.
    One time I almost got muted for saying "runt" because one staff member's dirty mind thought I said the derogatory term for ****** (oh nooo don't ban me for saying that pls).

    But yeah, their common argument for their lack of producing results are met with the classic "we have lives too" and "we can't handle it all at the same time"
    We get it, everyone has lives outside of Minecraft. I mean, that's common sense. But you all chose to be staff full well knowing you now have responsibilities here too.
    As for handling issues, they let them pile up because, like I said, they're mostly incompetent. They never drive for results like a good staff team should. And the times they do get results from their actions, they don't realize there were other ways of handling certain situations. Like a neckbeard, they tip their fedoras to us all.
    *tips fedora* M'server.
    Oh, and there's the fact that they can't take criticisms at times. I've seen multiple examples of this in my time here. Say anything that they don't like and they'll either lose their ****, then ban/kick/mute you. Or they'll nod it off and keep on acting like they do.

    I used to have faith in Havoc, but that all died when the owners started disregarding what the community wanted. Hell, a lot of us wanted MW and MM back, and for HN to actually get fixed. Did we ever get that? No tf we didn't, and I doubt we ever will.
    Now, I'm just sitting back, watching the server I used to really enjoy just burn to the ground. I have popcorn if anyone wishes to join. :)
     

    Twqntys

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    I guess I'll put in my input since it's that kind of post (and don't get me wrong, I love these).

    Staff members here aren't exactly competent. They unjustly ban/mute players at times, they never drive for results since they want to live their lives outside of the server they decided to work in, and some are seriously on a power trip.
    One time I almost got muted for saying "runt" because one staff member's dirty mind thought I said the derogatory term for ****** (oh nooo don't ban me for saying that pls).

    But yeah, their common argument for their lack of producing results are met with the classic "we have lives too" and "we can't handle it all at the same time"
    We get it, everyone has lives outside of Minecraft. I mean, that's common sense. But you all chose to be staff full well knowing you now have responsibilities here too.
    As for handling issues, they let them pile up because, like I said, they're mostly incompetent. They never drive for results like a good staff team should. And the times they do get results from their actions, they don't realize there were other ways of handling certain situations. Like a neckbeard, they tip their fedoras to us all.
    *tips fedora* M'server.
    Oh, and there's the fact that they can't take criticisms at times. I've seen multiple examples of this in my time here. Say anything that they don't like and they'll either lose their ****, then ban/kick/mute you. Or they'll nod it off and keep on acting like they do.

    I used to have faith in Havoc, but that all died when the owners started disregarding what the community wanted. Hell, a lot of us wanted MW and MM back, and for HN to actually get fixed. Did we ever get that? No tf we didn't, and I doubt we ever will.
    Now, I'm just sitting back, watching the server I used to really enjoy just burn to the ground. I have popcorn if anyone wishes to join. :)
    Gimme some