TMD dying And a personal take on it.

[4Chins]

I guess I'll put in my input since it's that kind of post (and don't get me wrong, I love these).

Staff members here aren't exactly competent. They unjustly ban/mute players at times, they never drive for results since they want to live their lives outside of the server they decided to work in, and some are seriously on a power trip.
One time I almost got muted for saying "runt" because one staff member's dirty mind thought I said the derogatory term for ****** (oh nooo don't ban me for saying that pls).

But yeah, their common argument for their lack of producing results are met with the classic "we have lives too" and "we can't handle it all at the same time"
We get it, everyone has lives outside of Minecraft. I mean, that's common sense. But you all chose to be staff full well knowing you now have responsibilities here too.
As for handling issues, they let them pile up because, like I said, they're mostly incompetent. They never drive for results like a good staff team should. And the times they do get results from their actions, they don't realize there were other ways of handling certain situations. Like a neckbeard, they tip their fedoras to us all.
*tips fedora* M'server.
Oh, and there's the fact that they can't take criticisms at times. I've seen multiple examples of this in my time here. Say anything that they don't like and they'll either lose their ****, then ban/kick/mute you. Or they'll nod it off and keep on acting like they do.

I used to have faith in Havoc, but that all died when the owners started disregarding what the community wanted. Hell, a lot of us wanted MW and MM back, and for HN to actually get fixed. Did we ever get that? No tf we didn't, and I doubt we ever will.
Now, I'm just sitting back, watching the server I used to really enjoy just burn to the ground. I have popcorn if anyone wishes to join.

"*tips fedora* M'server."
KEK, also i hope the copcorn doesn't have butter

 

[Jahango]

I’ve fought him with CB and he’s 100% legit

You've fought him with CB... Okay?? Can you use Cheatbreaker on TMD? No you can't. So obviously he will be legit on there and not TMD, do you think before you type something... oh wait you clearly don't because you were banned for threatening to DOX someone then got unbanned.

 

[Firelillx]

There isn't even a point of reading this, because it seems like an insult post. Do you think a player was unfairly banned? Message a staff member. If they say it's conclusive, you can try to find evidence that it's inconclusive, but that isn't likely. I'd say when it comes to bans, 95% of the time, the ban is legit. Most of the time, people think their teammates don't hack, so they get angry and hate on the staff team, when they didn't realize the ability that their teammates had in terms of hiding their hacks. Not every staff member is amazing, because nobody is perfect. Yes, it's cliche, but you can't argue that I am wrong on that. I agree that TMD is dying, no doubt about that. I have my speculations, and my theories. Trust me, the staff team isn't the problem you should be focusing on. I understand that you get angry when your friends are banned, and I didn't read any of your post so I don't want you bashing me and/or saying I am ignoring you and "proving your point"; there is no point to it, and it's not worth my time, nor yours.

I was a Senior Moderator, and I've noticed biased players throughout my time. Kendra is a good staff member, but should work on communication, and the staff team should ensure that if she has a deep relationship/friendship with someone, she shouldn't be dealing with their ban. Other than that, she's pretty freaking great. I think communication is still an issue, especially since the former admin recently resigned; he was working on communication as well, and it may seem ironic due to his inactivity before he left, but I saw the time and effort he put into it. I also think that staff should practice their screensharing abilities more often.

You may argue that staff have their own lives as well, but may I remind you that players have our own lives as well? Every 5 minutes Kendra decided to spend sipping her tea and taking her time over something I had thoroughly explained without flaw was 5 minutes that a falsebanned player couldn’t hang out with his friends.

You're trying to make a staff member look bad because you're having a prissy fit. If a falsely banned player was encountering the inability to join the server, and Kendra took over 1-2 days without response, another staff member would have to take it over. (At least that's how I remember it before I resigned) Calling staff members out just makes you look bad; I understand if you're frustrated, you want to let others know about the irritation you've endeavored because you truly don't think a staff member is good enough, then you're speaking with the wrong audience. That's for the owners, or beetley to handle. If they don't, contact me and I will make sure the message goes through, due to communication issues among the team. If you have a concern with a staff member, bring up all the evidence, all the screenshots, and bring up their case; they will understand that you are concerned for the players, and it is okay to not like a staff member if you're worried that they will ban false players.

I lightly skimmed your post, but I have to go soon, I may edit more text onto this later. Message me privately (not on the forums) and I will take the time out of my day to personally help you out, explain procedures, and ensure that you are at least slightly more satisfied at the end, with more information regarding the experience you've gone through. I'm sorry that you're frustrated, and yes I'm not staff; I can still help you out, and it's better than nothing. (My weekend is pretty clear as far as I know)

You don't need to "roast" people, and you don't need to throw out name calling. I understand your concern, and I can introduce you to the more mature way of addressing your issues and concerns.

I could write for hours and list everything you write, and write a response for it all; I'm not going to do that. I'm not here to argue, and I want to be time efficient, focusing on the things that matter.

~ Katitude

genuinely not trying to be a jerk but how can you comment THAT much and make a response that long if you didn't even read the full post? You are kinda accusing the poster of trying to make staff members look bad and saying they should message a staff member. If you had read, it seems like they had messaged a staff member from what I can tell. Not saying everything you said is wrong, but its not really in good form to accuse people of stuff if you don't even read the whole post?

 

[Katitude]

genuinely not trying to be a jerk but how can you comment THAT much and make a response that long if you didn't even read the full post? You are kinda accusing the poster of trying to make staff members look bad and saying they should message a staff member. If you had read, it seems like they had messaged a staff member from what I can tell. Not saying everything you said is wrong, but its not really in good form to accuse people of stuff if you don't even read the whole post?

I mentioned that I didn't read the entire post, so players can't make assumptions that I am picking and choosing parts of it to make you look bad. Not my intent, and I'm not being rude either for not fully reading your post - skimming it instead - but I can't change how you feel.

Nty, Friend. The more “mature” route has already been taken, and quite frankly, the lack of its effectiveness is what drove me to this action. Me and my crew will be picking our asses up and kicking *** elsewhere. Goodbye.

Moreover, after this comment he made, he didn't seem to care about messaging a staff member. Some people can't tell when a post is to trash talk someone, versus asking for help so it can be resolved properly. I would know. When he says the mature route has been taken, making a huge post on the forums isn't the way to go; it just makes people angry. Support tickets are for getting help with players/staff. And when staff don't respond to these threads, these people will say "Well that proves my point" or something dumb like that, but no, it doesn't prove a point. Threads aren't for getting help about staff or players, that is what support tickets are for, or private messaging a different mod if the staff member concerning you is a Mod+.

I'm not going to argue, and I don't care if you try to make me look bad because I didn't read the comment/thread in detail. I have a lot of experience with this type of thing, and it goes in a cycle.

1. Angry person trash talks or makes a huge thread.
2. People agree or disagree.
3. One person explains that their topic shouldn't be in a public thread.
4. They get harassed or "called out" by the community for giving their opinion.
5. 2 or more people get caught in an argument, and name calling/disrespect occurs.
6. Thread gets locked.

This goes on repeat. So essentially, I am going to read the replies of anyone who quotes this comment, (if they do) but I don't care if you try to call me out. It'll just start an argument, and will simply make you look bad for wasting your time on a minecraft server thread.

 

[Firelillx]

I mentioned that I didn't read the entire post, so players can't make assumptions that I am picking and choosing parts of it to make you look bad. Not my intent, and I'm not a jerk for not fully reading your post - skimming it instead - but I can't change how you feel.


Moreover, after this comment he made, he didn't seem to care about messaging a staff member. Some people can't tell when a post is to trash talk someone, versus asking for help so it can be resolved properly. I would know. When he says the mature route has been taken, making a huge post on the forums isn't the way to go; it just makes people angry. Support tickets are for getting help with players/staff. And when staff don't respond to these threads, these people will say "Well that proves my point" or something dumb like that, but no, it doesn't prove a point. Threads aren't for getting help about staff or players, that is what support tickets are for, or private messaging a different mod if the staff member ....

Just pointing out that I didn’t call you a jerk. Reread what I wrote- it was directed at me. Just genuinely curious how so much of a response came from skimming but I guess what you said makes sense.

 

[Katitude]

Just pointing out that I didn’t call you a jerk. Reread what I wrote- it was directed at me. Just genuinely curious how so much of a response came from skimming but I guess what you said makes sense.

ye

 

[Pexxious]

This staff team give me depression

 

[Cat_Squirrel_Inc]

Dear Adorable Staff Team,
Can I be helper when my pc is done being fixed. Within 5-7 buisness days, I believe that’s appropriate amount of time to think about it.

I farted again

ph@t bet

 

[Twqntys]

You've fought him with CB... Okay?? Can you use Cheatbreaker on TMD? No you can't. So obviously he will be legit on there and not TMD, do you think before you type something... oh wait you clearly don't because you were banned for threatening to DOX someone then got unbanned.

Lemme correct you there, I got muted for theatening to dox, I got banned because Pawndah made up a story that I doxed him, even tho the message was said towards Casey...

 

[Twqntys]

I mentioned that I didn't read the entire post, so players can't make assumptions that I am picking and choosing parts of it to make you look bad. Not my intent, and I'm not being rude either for not fully reading your post - skimming it instead - but I can't change how you feel.


Moreover, after this comment he made, he didn't seem to care about messaging a staff member. Some people can't tell when a post is to trash talk someone, versus asking for help so it can be resolved properly. I would know. When he says the mature route has been taken, making a huge post on the forums isn't the way to go; it just makes people angry. Support tickets are for getting help with players/staff. And when staff don't respond to these threads, these people will say "Well that proves my point" or something dumb like that, but no, it doesn't prove a point. Threads aren't for getting help about staff or players, that is what support tickets are for, or private messaging a different mod if the staff member concerning you is a Mod+.

I'm not going to argue, and I don't care if you try to make me look bad because I didn't read the comment/thread in detail. I have a lot of experience with this type of thing, and it goes in a cycle.

1. Angry person trash talks or makes a huge thread.
2. People agree or disagree.
3. One person explains that their topic shouldn't be in a public thread.
4. They get harassed or "called out" by the community for giving their opinion.
5. 2 or more people get caught in an argument, and name calling/disrespect occurs.
6. Thread gets locked.

This goes on repeat. So essentially, I am going to read the replies of anyone who quotes this comment, (if they do) but I don't care if you try to call me out. It'll just start an argument, and will simply make you look bad for wasting your time on a minecraft server thread.

I already made a support ticket which got closed by Kendra after telling me to resume the convo on discord after which she still hasn’t replied after 2+ weeks

 

[Katitude]

I already made a support ticket which got closed by Kendra after telling me to resume the convo on discord after which she still hasn’t replied after 2+ weeks

Oof

 

[Octaviene]

Want to bring the server back to life?
Unban Twqntys. Unban XanDeeHee.
Like it or not, we keep the server alive.
We are the best team on the server, and people aren't going to be able to take that lmao, which is why they will come to try and prove us wrong.
I'm not here to negotiate. I'm just here to plainly state that if you want people to keep playing your PvP gamemodes, unban the people that play it.
Otherwise, Twqntys, Willhermgri9, myself, 4Chins, UprisingMax, UprisingJake, UprisingRyan, UprisingDylan, UprisingTravis, EpicZacc, xPandamoniyum, The_Miniest_Kid, Xrengus, LaDuck, YaBoiB3nda, and the other 18 members of my army will boycott this server.
I don't care if it screws with your reputation, if it makes your staff angry, or if it makes you angry.
My offer is there. Unban them, and we play.
Feel free to comment as appropriate.
I really don't give a **** about what you people have to say anymore.
People are just all talk and no action.
And you wanna know who killed the server?
I did.
Because without competition, there's no point in playing the PvP modes.
If you think otherwise, good for you.
As mentioned beforehand, I will take my crew, and go kick *** elsewhere.

 

[Twqntys]

Want to bring the server back to life?
Unban Twqntys. Unban XanDeeHee.
Like it or not, we keep the server alive.
We are the best team on the server, and people aren't going to be able to take that lmao, which is why they will come to try and prove us wrong.
I'm not here to negotiate. I'm just here to plainly state that if you want people to keep playing your PvP gamemodes, unban the people that play it.
Otherwise, Twqntys, Willhermgri9, myself, 4Chins, UprisingMax, UprisingJake, UprisingRyan, UprisingDylan, UprisingTravis, EpicZacc, xPandamoniyum, The_Miniest_Kid, Xrengus, LaDuck, YaBoiB3nda, and the other 18 members of my army will boycott this server.
I don't care if it screws with your reputation, if it makes your staff angry, or if it makes you angry.
My offer is there. Unban them, and we play.
Feel free to comment as appropriate.
I really don't give a **** about what you people have to say anymore.
People are just all talk and no action.
And you wanna know who killed the server?
I did.
Because without competition, there's no point in playing the PvP modes.
If you think otherwise, good for you.
As mentioned beforehand, I will take my crew, and go kick *** elsewhere.

Also because they were both false bans... Also my friend Always1st got banned for having Labymod on his computer without even having used it...

 

[general2673]

Want to bring the server back to life?
Unban Twqntys. Unban XanDeeHee.
Like it or not, we keep the server alive.
We are the best team on the server, and people aren't going to be able to take that lmao, which is why they will come to try and prove us wrong.
I'm not here to negotiate. I'm just here to plainly state that if you want people to keep playing your PvP gamemodes, unban the people that play it.
Otherwise, Twqntys, Willhermgri9, myself, 4Chins, UprisingMax, UprisingJake, UprisingRyan, UprisingDylan, UprisingTravis, EpicZacc, xPandamoniyum, The_Miniest_Kid, Xrengus, LaDuck, YaBoiB3nda, and the other 18 members of my army will boycott this server.
I don't care if it screws with your reputation, if it makes your staff angry, or if it makes you angry.
My offer is there. Unban them, and we play.
Feel free to comment as appropriate.
I really don't give a **** about what you people have to say anymore.
People are just all talk and no action.
And you wanna know who killed the server?
I did.
Because without competition, there's no point in playing the PvP modes.
If you think otherwise, good for you.
As mentioned beforehand, I will take my crew, and go kick *** elsewhere.

putting aside how narcissistic your comment is, threatening the staff with a walkout does nothing good. believe me, i know what im saying there.
here is the funny thing about competition, and it may be hard to admit. people can fight other people than you guys. competition is relative and having new players slaughtered by a team of pain spamming juggs while insulting them is something i believe we can do without as it only drives away new players for the sake of your own amusement.. so to all those that agreed with this post, by all means- beat it. no one is stopping you and i doubt those that wish to see the server recover will bat an eye.its better to tear down a structure than try to repair a rotten floor.

ps. we did unban those that played pvp. in fact everyone with a 6 month+ ban was let back in. That was your chance to prove that you guys changed. the fact that a wave of bans followed shows that is not the case. follow the rules. you are not immune to the player rules because you are the self stated best team.

you said to respond as i see fit. there it is. i fully expect a fairly harsh reply. until then.

cheers-
general

 

[Octaviene]

You're an imbecile if you think I don't know anything about hacks and what they look like.

And... Who are you again?
You're someone who's played TMD for four years. Does that make you good at identifying hacks?
The only thing you guys are calling us out for is melee hacks. UprisingMax for kill aura. EthanAndHila for reach. 4Chins for kill aura.
What qualifications do you seem to think you have?
I spent a good two years of my life talking daily with an ex-mineplex moderator, joshuayeoyi. Through him, I understood the concepts of space and ping, which is something people on here have failed repeatedly to understand, yet completely deny their lack of understanding.
UprisingDylan is a current Moderator on Roxbot, a place where OG minecraft pvpers go to hang out. Willhermgri9 is one of the best European PvPers in the world. I'm an ex-gotpvp moderator (Factions server with prize money). I have members who have played this game since 2010, 4 of them, in fact.
I have searched all over the internet for sources of your "experience". Comes up with nothing.
You think you're relevant just because you're the king of some puny pathetic server with incompetent staff? Yet I'm able to singlehandedly force all you dip****s to ally against me in game. Don't you see the benefits of my presence, lmao. You guys finally know what its like to be in the presence of a real god, not some pathetic "one man army" bull****.
For the record, I didn't say the staff was bad. Bad staff are fine, because some of them are willing to learn.
Incompetent staff are so ****ing arrogant with their heads stuck up their arses that they're unwilling to admit their shortcomings and use their titles as a means to escape reasoning.
Am I wrong to say that you've been ignoring me and Twqntys even before I started becoming aggressive, Kendra?

 

[Octaviene]

believe me, i know what im saying there.

You say that, and you immediately prove yourself to be utterly and completely ignorant of the situation.

ps. we did unban those that played pvp. in fact everyone with a 6 month+ ban was let back in. That was your chance to prove that you guys changed.

XanDeeHee and Twqntys were falsebanned after the reset. In fact, they were never banned in the first place. What is happening is that the staff are ignoring every single thing I'm trying to tell them, with the exception of Shiratori, who is unable to get me any evidence that was used to ban XanDeeHee in the first place, because "Staff are always right, they always know best, they don't need to reason or to give reasons."

You clearly have no idea what the situation is like because what you seem to believe is going on is so far from the truth. When I was active for two months, I've never seen you once. Ever.
What makes you think what you say has any weight? What makes you think that you know what you're saying?
As far as I'm concerned, no one here has any ****ing qualifications.

 

[Twqntys]

People call me out for Autoclicking, killaura, reach and even aimbot... I don’t own any hack clients and always play on vanilla. My pc doesn’t even let me download optifine but yet I always seem to be an autoclicker or have a macro or **** like honestly, the people who call themselves staff can’t even recognize hacks. I’ve fought a lot of blatant hackers who are still not banned. I’ve fought a lot abusing staff members who /kicked me since I was winning the fight. I hear people say all the time “I can easily detect hacks, you’re blatant as ****” well apparently you can’t huh ... Some of these are currently banned due to, guess what, hacking...

 

[general2673]

You say that, and you immediately prove yourself to be utterly and completely ignorant of the situation.

XanDeeHee and Twqntys were falsebanned after the reset. In fact, they were never banned in the first place. What is happening is that the staff are ignoring every single thing I'm trying to tell them, with the exception of Shiratori, who is unable to get me any evidence that was used to ban XanDeeHee in the first place, because "Staff are always right, they always know best, they don't need to reason or to give reasons."

You clearly have no idea what the situation is like because what you seem to believe is going on is so far from the truth. When I was active for two months, I've never seen you once. Ever.
What makes you think what you say has any weight? What makes you think that you know what you're saying?
As far as I'm concerned, no one here has any ****ing qualifications.

the fact you ignored the bulk of my post and instead responded with a nonsense remark about my first sentence (fyi it was an inside joke from my time on staff.)

also to what you said about jahango, hes easily the most well known player to date. i fact ive never heard of you at all. i have run across a few of the players you mentioned in your team but never you. not when i was staff, not ever

it is people like you- the self proclaimed saviors of havoc that are the very same reason it is has been dying slowly. you are poison to the server. it tastes sweet at first but as time goes on, it kills you from the inside. boycott the server. pleeeeaaasseeee. ironically your threat may be the best thing for the server long term. we will lose players- all 33 you mentioned at maximum. with that loss we may actually be able to bring new players in. you ignored this part of my last message, which means you dont have an answer to this that is not denial or an insult.

if you think im a rando- ask around then come back to me.

 

[Cat_Squirrel_Inc]

putting aside how narcissistic your comment is, threatening the staff with a walkout does nothing good. believe me, i know what im saying there.
here is the funny thing about competition, and it may be hard to admit. people can fight other people than you guys. competition is relative and having new players slaughtered by a team of pain spamming juggs while insulting them is something i believe we can do without as it only drives away new players for the sake of your own amusement.. so to all those that agreed with this post, by all means- beat it. no one is stopping you and i doubt those that wish to see the server recover will bat an eye.its better to tear down a structure than try to repair a rotten floor.

ps. we did unban those that played pvp. in fact everyone with a 6 month+ ban was let back in. That was your chance to prove that you guys changed. the fact that a wave of bans followed shows that is not the case. follow the rules. you are not immune to the player rules because you are the self stated best team.

you said to respond as i see fit. there it is. i fully expect a fairly harsh reply. until then.

cheers-
general

Beautifully said, General

also to what you said about jahango, hes easily the most well known player to date. i fact ive never heard of you at all. i have run across a few of the players you mentioned in your team but never you. not when i was staff, not ever

Also same. Who the hell are you @Doedicurus

Honestly dude, gtfo. Your attention seeking ego is much too inflated for your breeches, so why don't you take a chill pill, stop for a second and see your own arrogance, and stop commenting on a dead meme. Lol you toxic "ogs" never fail to make me laugh xD

 

[Challenge_]

The toxic “OGs” that think theyre the only people that matter are the ones that killed the server, not kept it alive. They screamed when pvp was changed in a way that even minorly inconvenienced them. If an update boosted the survival aspect in any way, they *****ed and moaned about how the update sucked simply because it wasn’t about them. Because after all, they’re the only ones that matter in their own eyes. They turned what was a duel-purpose server of zombie survival with a competitive side to simply competitive, driving away all the survivors that would eventually become PvPers. They became so competitive they started doing whatever they could to get an edge by cheating. Which got some of them banned. Like a self destruct sequence.

Even if the ban was false, it shows how on-edge staff is about the hacking scene. It’s like a disease, and sometimes they miss and hit live tissue.