I respected HavocMC until this moment

[TriggeredCreeper]

And you would know this how???

Remember Sarge, that he is actually very biased in the way that he is probably friends with the cheater in real life or on skype:
"I can personally share skype texts saying when he got banned, and how happy he was as he got out."
To be honest I don't think he actually has evidence of no shoot-through-wall hacks being available to TMD, but rather he only says it because he's defending his friend. I know i've said this before, but I really appreciate the time and research you have put into this thread. It helps me so much .

 

[InfiniteRevenge]

I will be back to catch hackers soon don't worry

 

[UterZorker]

Look pal heres more whenever your post jumps to off of the the most recent post's u post and i hate it

 

[ArmenTheHeli]

Well, the truth is: If you quietly report the player here: https://havocmc.net/support-tickets/open and/or PM a helper or mod on the forums or TS, and tell them you suspect a player of hacking. They usually will ask for the name and server (This happened in my case). Since I didn't call out the guy in chat he had no reason to believe he had been compromised. Apparently a staff member recorded him hacking and he was given the appropriate punishment. Calling out a hacker in chat is the worst you can do. It gives them a chance to lay off the throttle and be more cautious. Remember, calling someone out or "Haxusation" are against the server's rules.

This is true. On other servers where hacking is a small problem, it is easy for hackers to go unnoticed. By shouting "(insert name) is hacking!" you not only give them time to stop hacking as Sarge said, but in some cases the hacker gets enough time to come up with an excuse. If the excuse is very believable, nothing will even be done. If you do not have access to TS, and there is not an admin, moderator, or any other staff member on, reporting on the forums is the best choice. If for some reason you can't access the forums, which is a problem for some, try avoiding the area you last saw the hacker. As long as they can't get around the map fast enough to find you, you'll be ok

 

[Sarge4id]

This is true. On other servers where hacking is a small problem, it is easy for hackers to go unnoticed. By shouting "(insert name) is hacking!" you not only give them time to stop hacking as Sarge said, but in some cases the hacker gets enough time to come up with an excuse. If the excuse is very believable, nothing will even be done. If you do not have access to TS, and there is not an admin, moderator, or any other staff member on, reporting on the forums is the best choice. If for some reason you can't access the forums, which is a problem for some, try avoiding the area you last saw the hacker. As long as they can't get around the map fast enough to find you, you'll be ok

Just to add on to this great advice: Remember, Name and Server of suspected hacker! Name and Server! Write it down if you have too. When a mod/helper comes on the server, PM them. Also, you could ask someone you really trust, to go to the forums on your behalf.

 

[ArmenTheHeli]

If you don't have anyone to appeal for you, ill do it. just look for me on TMD1,2,5,or 6 (rarely, on 7). Just tell me everything you can about the "hacker" including server, and how they are hacking. Any info is great!

 

[Tactical_Fox48]

He is a hardcore, as well. Who spends 20$ and then hacks? If you were an adult about this, you would make a support ticket instead of saying that a glitch killed you, as well as the fact you DID deserve the hackusating ban. Do some research before saying "dis guy hax!!1"

There is NO reason to create a thread about this. Make a support ticket, even if your ticket is a waste of staff's time.

And if you were an adult about this, you wouldn't be trying to gun this guy down like he's a menace to society. In my opinion, this thread gave a heads-up to players about what could possibly happen. It was very well thought out, and he even stated that he was not trying to put anyone down.

 

[Sarge4id]

I think all points of view have been clearly stated and any further attempt to continue this thread would only lead to more arguing. The staff are aware and on high alert (when they're on), for hackers. How to report them has been defined and described clearly. All we can do at this point is follow server rules and do our part as players to report things, and have faith in the staff in order to make our community better and safer.

 

[purrr]

I have to agree with Sarge4id on this one. Since when have you been told that there are no shoot-through-the-wall hacks? Obviously you must have gathered that false information from somewhere; i'd be more than happy to find out where (maybe from a webpage or from a specific minecrafter). Until you can prove that no such cheat exists, I will most certainly believe that you are not telling the truth. And what's also to say that if said cheats do exist, that they will be either coded on an outdated client or incompatible with this server? You've just been nothing but trouble and hassle from your very first post on this thread. I'd recommend that you stay out of this for the time being, or until you actually have an open mind instead of being all closed-minded and insisting this incident never even happened and i've just made this thread for the fun of it. It would help me, as I don't have to argue with you anymore, and it would also help you, as you wouldn't have to try and think of a comeback every single time. Just think about it: what are you doing with this thread? Trying to make out this didn't happen. Is that going to help the server? No. What I am assuming you don't understand is the fact that even if I were to supply false information, which I would have NO intention of doing, this would still somewhat help the server by possibly alerting them to the fact that they might need to step up their anti-cheat methods. I'm actually trying to help the server out here, but obviously you cannot see that, and also you're most certainly not helping here.

"Make a support ticket, even if your ticket is a waste of staff's time." I have mentioned in previous posts, that I am NOT the type of person who tries to waste people's time by making hoax hack alerts. And the exact same thing applies here. Why would I make a support ticket if it's just going to be a waste of time? I believe that making a thread is a good idea as it allows anyone to contribute and make suggestions about the issue.

I understand exactly why you're trying to make out this incident isn't real. You have probably shared contact details on Skype and/or are friends in real life. In other words, you're biased. Very.

I have skyped with them once.

Please go look up "movement hacks for minecraft" on Google. Please. Nick said it, I'll say it. It. Can't. Happen.

You cannot control another player through your own console. I've played since 2011, and my friend uses Huzuni and Tomato.

I know about this.

 

[purrr]

And you would know this how???

I've done my research around the stuff. Two of my friends hack, and I used to.

Even around a month ago I thought about downloading a client, and I actually looked up if there was anything for this specific "hack".

Nothing.

You can't control another player from a remote location, it seems.

 

[purrr]

Again, I really beg you to try and find a way to prove the guy hacks (which he's not, since it's not a hack). Look for hours. Days, years for all I friggin care.

There's iCU and command blocks. That's the ONLY WAY. iCU shouldn't even count, I'm just listing stuff.

 

[ArmenTheHeli]

Theres a mod i know that forces players in a certain radius to look a direction, but it doesn't let you make them look around. Just makes you face North (i think its north, though it might be a different direction). its supposed to be a troll mod

 

[Sarge4id]

Plus, as for a lot of games out there, people make their own hacks and don't distribute them. Or they make you paid for a sub on a website. Just because you look for a particular thing online and can't find it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

 

[UterZorker]

Mabye this will help i was taught in libary that the first 3 search results are probly what u are looking for

 

[Sarge4id]

Again, I really beg you to try and find a way to prove the guy hacks (which he's not, since it's not a hack). Look for hours. Days, years for all I friggin care.

There's iCU and command blocks. That's the ONLY WAY. iCU shouldn't even count, I'm just listing stuff.

How do you explain projectiles flying out of a wall then?

 

[UterZorker]

How do you explain projectiles flying out of a wall then?

I know the cdc there is a spot with glass that glass broke socthis guy thought it was arrows flying thru walls

 

[ArmenTheHeli]

O yeah guys there's a no-hacks way to shoot thru walls :/ i don't use it because I don't want to be banned, but there is a way.

 

[purrr]

How do you explain projectiles flying out of a wall then?

Cdc glitch. The elevator can allow bullets to pass through it.

 

[UterZorker]

Cdc glitch. The elevator can allow bullets to pass through it.

Thats bad

 

[Sarge4id]

Cdc glitch. The elevator can allow bullets to pass through it.

I don't recall you mentioning this earlier. This would most likely explain the projectiles that killed him. To me, glitching, especially against other players, is the same as hacking and should deserve some form of ban.