To the Staff of HavocMC on Behalf of Your Playerbase

[UterZorker]

everyone says ****** on the internet. Do you not have chat enabled?


JrMod is hard to get to, it took me about 4-5 months to get to, you need to be trusted. and the lack of helpers are because people don't write good enough applications and staff do have lives out side of minecraft...

i dont have a life outside of minecraft (well i do) but i will play minecraft/browse the internet for up to 24hours a week

 

[pumpkinvhye]

What LinkOfFear said, everything he said, is true whether anyone wants to admit it to themselves or not. And the only people who deny that staff have given up on this server are just kissing butt, because they probably applied, and you can't blame their timezone because they should have included that in their application. Everyone I've talked to has been killed by at least 1 hacker in the last day, as for the last week, I'd probably lose count. I understand it's hard for staff to catch hackers, but players seem to have a fine job doing it without all of the extra's staff gets that would assist them in finding one. The point is, staff need to be more active, every time I try to message staff about a matter /list is always empty. PeachDaBoss (and Katitude) is the only staff I've seen before all of this that I still see now. And you can't blame the vehicle for the hackers, because the vehicles didn't put themselves in the server. Players shouldn't have to make support tickets for every hacker they see, it's there to assist staff when they cannot deal with a situation immediately, the staff is still there, there job isn't to go over the support tickets, its to prevent the server from being flooded with support tickets and complaints. We all know it's not easy making a server, nor keeping it running; and staff have been great, it's not that anyone feels that staff are "not good" or "bad people" , it's that a lot of players feel they just aren't working as hard to keep honest players happy, and the servers reputation be what it deserves. TheMiningDead is an amazing server, and many players love it, that's why we get so frustrated when something we feel should be done, gets "ignored", or so we think. We shouldn't start an argument, this was meant to be a message, that many people feel, just are to scared to be honest with staff about. Someone spoke up and instead of denying everything and getting defensive maybe we should be shaking our heads, and trying to help make the server the experience it once was.

 

[purrr]

everyone says ****** on the internet. Do you not have chat enabled?
You have to be a pretty large idiot to say that casually.

JrMod is hard to get to, it took me about 4-5 months to get to, you need to be trusted. and the lack of helpers are because people don't write good enough applications and staff do have lives out side of minecraft...

First of all, I know at least 4 friends that gave excellent apps and were ignored and denied, and with the lack of staff at hand right now, the expectations should probably be lowered.

 

[Challenge_]

Guys. This is a Minecraft server. You guys are acting like its the end of the world that some hackers are getting away with this.

Look, I hate hackers. Honestly, I do. They take skill and throw the need for it out the window. But part of the reason staff is getting overloaded with reports is cus people will report (pardon my French) the most stupid ****. Pushing out of sz? Really? Just don't go AFK on top of the gate. I think the players need to put into perspective what's important to report and what's not.

 

[The_HX_Gamer]

Listen, they have lives the than Minecraft, you know who's also at fault here guys? Us. The members of HavocMC, if you don't report the hackers, they just keep hacking and then other players see them and complain. Don't always expect a staff to be there 100% of the time, report the hackers on your own and help them out by doing them. You know where complaining gets us? Nowhere. Literally your just insulting the hard working team at HavocMC! Don't just think of the 4 hackers that got away, imagine how many other hackers they banned.

 

[Challenge_]

Listen, they have lives the than Minecraft, you know who's also at fault here guys? Us. The members of HavocMC, if you don't report the hackers, they just keep hacking and then other players see them and complain. Don't always expect a staff to be there 100% of the time, report the hackers on your own and help them out by doing them. You know where complaining gets us? Nowhere. Literally your just insulting the hard working team at HavocMC! Don't just think of the 4 hackers that got away, imagine how many other hackers they banned.

Ditto

 

[_Vapples_]

As a former staff member for other MC servers, I have to side once again with the staff of HavocMC. The servers, while they didn't have nearly as many hackers as Havoc due to a smaller player base, had their fair share every day. Trying to make a server 100% clean is trying to wash all of the windows of the Empire State Building with a toothbrush and a bottle of Windex. It won't work out. Give the staff a break from the hate and they can spend more time fulfilling the hundreds, if not thousands, of support tickets the player base generates every day instead of having to constantly defend themselves in the court of the players. Go a step further and help 'em out with evidence. And please, try to limit the amount of support tickets you post as well as what you post them for. I only submit support tickets for extreme spammers who refuse to stop even after being asked to, or for hackers. Work with staff, not against.

 

[Challenge_]

Look. Vappi's right. I think there should be a thing Havoc does. Can you tell how many total players are on, on average? If so, when that average goes up, there needs to be proportionally as many staff members.
I know my interaction in this conversation is partially fueled by the application I sent in very recently. I see a problem and I want to help it get fixed.
But y'all need to remember. Helpers don't ban people. Builders don't ban people. Developers (I don't think) ban people. They need more MODS. Jr or Sr.

 

[LinkOFeare]

If you guys all ran servers, you could never take constructive criticism.

 

[Pleasureful]

If you guys all ran servers, you could never take constructive criticism.

Indeed we would be able to, first don't speak on behalf of all of us, I play on TMD-3 and never encountered a hacker myself, others may have but it is the person reporting that should have proper screenshot or video evidence, for example someone could say that PersonName is a hacker and tells me to report them, how can I report without evidence, so I got no reason to report him and also, one report will do the job if you got enough evidence, second I ran 3 servers in my entire lifetime and soon to come and constructive criticism is more than welcome so really speak for yourself or people who agree with you

 

[LinkOFeare]

Indeed we would be able to, first don't speak on behalf of all of us, I play on TMD-3 and never encountered a hacker myself, others may have but it is the person reporting that should have proper screenshot or video evidence, for example someone could say that PersonName is a hacker and tells me to report them, how can I report without evidence, so I got no reason to report him and also, one report will do the job if you got enough evidence, second I ran 3 servers in my entire lifetime and soon to come and constructive criticism is more than welcome so really speak for yourself or people who agree with you

Well if I were a hacker, I wouldn't go on a server without PvP.

 

[Pleasureful]

Well if I were a hacker, I wouldn't go on a server without PvP.

Hmm, Not true, Hackers might enjoy the server, So they hack to get unlimited items and such, Doesn't have to be an extreme super hacker with pvp hacks and fly hacks

 

[Pleasureful]

Agreed. I have only seen one hacker get banned out of the dozens and dozens of hackers I have seen on TMD daily. It is nauseating.
#StepUpYourGame AND #HireMoreStaff. Might I suggest IP bans for these millions of hackers? (If you don't already.) That way, they cannot use an alt. Maybe something like it.

Well there is 1 if not many ways to bypass IP ban, They need a ban combo, HWID, IP and username, They wont be able to access the server unless using a new device,.