Message to Staff

[JBentley694]

No

Simply put appealing to "og" players will only drive Havoc further into the ground. TMDC is exactly what the "og" group asked for and the reason we moved past that is because back in time long long ago in the time for some reason you all want to keep bringing up the game was focused around pay to win. Pay to win and if you had more than others is all that mattered back then and that's not a game. A game simply isn't "I got Daddy's credit card now watch me win". It's only logic at this point and how people don't see it is a disappointment, the game is not meant to be a spawn in spam some pains and kill players.

I would like to point out that the only reason our new player's don't stick around is because of the toxic "og" players that have nothing better to do than be toxic. So many youtubers I have asked to come to the server and chatted with about making videos and they all say the same basic lines which are they would love to come do videos on the server but they cant tolerate the toxic behavior by the older players and for them it takes joy from the game.

Bottom line is the "og's" just want the old system back so they can get on and cheat and feel like they are a somebody when they are in reality nobody but just a player who is more fortunate and would rather cheat then play an honest game.

 

[Chris_XP]

They never did it right. The people who have "moved on" are also missing old tmd and would do anything for it back, maybe except you.

What's not right about it? TMD-C is exactly the same as what you're asking for? Like, literally a carbon copy of the old TMD you want so bad. The only difference is that there is rarely any players on it, hence the conclusion that people have moved on and about 90% of the playerbase during this time haven't touched the server in over 2 years. They moved on.
As for the people who claim they will play when their demands are met, they won't.

 

[Pawndah]

Look guys, Maybe Mineplex died but Mineplex and Hypixel etc. its all the same. Skywars and **** but TMD is unique. If you think that Minecraft is **** and its not fun anymore I agree, but TMD isnt regular Minecraft. Its just something very original, the pvp, plugins and everything. If you guys will take this seriously and stop being negative maybe we can do something about it. TMD is the place where we all met and where everything started. If we put our opinions and serious replies here we can save this place and have fun again. I dont care about Mineplex. Its just mainstream server like 1000 others but there isnt any other like TMD. So I beg you guys to try it at least and share this post to your friends and OG players. I vote for yes of course.

No. just no.

 

[Pawndah]

I didn't post this on the forums for toxicity/arguments, I just want people opinions on this so I can tell you why I agree or disagree.

No one needs your comment on their decision buddy. You made a thread, people said no. End of story.

 

[DDENGAR]

To be blunt: it won't save the server. But it'll at least make tmd fun for some ppl for about a month and then it dies back down.

 

[SummonersJhift]

then tell me why the server is so dead?

Define dead.

 

[xHobbes]

There have been multiple attempts to make an OG server. All of them ended up flopping, and dragging in terms of playerbase with an average of 3 - 7 players on at peek hours. Perhaps more people getting on due to summer break will help it, but it seems to be going further into the red.

Currently, PvE is the leading gamemode, greatly outshining every other gamemode. This is not healthy, and the server is bound to fall sooner or later, the best thing to do at this point is to focus on making PvE better and preserving the playerbase the server has, rather than hoping a large portion of the community returns by appealing to them.

 

[Hqckey]

What's not right about it? TMD-C is exactly the same as what you're asking for? Like, literally a carbon copy of the old TMD you want so bad. The only difference is that there is rarely any players on it, hence the conclusion that people have moved on and about 90% of the playerbase during this time haven't touched the server in over 2 years. They moved on.
As for the people who claim they will play when their demands are met, they won't.

Tell me how its the exact same without talking about the map. Its really not.

 

[Hqckey]

Define dead.

20 players on tmdpvp at prime hours is considered at least not alive.

 

[Hqckey]

No one needs your comment on their decision buddy. You made a thread, people said no. End of story.

I don't think you understood the point of my comment. Don't type without thinking.

 

[Hqckey]

No

Simply put appealing to "og" players will only drive Havoc further into the ground. TMDC is exactly what the "og" group asked for and the reason we moved past that is because back in time long long ago in the time for some reason you all want to keep bringing up the game was focused around pay to win. Pay to win and if you had more than others is all that mattered back then and that's not a game. A game simply isn't "I got Daddy's credit card now watch me win". It's only logic at this point and how people don't see it is a disappointment, the game is not meant to be a spawn in spam some pains and kill players.

I would like to point out that the only reason our new player's don't stick around is because of the toxic "og" players that have nothing better to do than be toxic. So many youtubers I have asked to come to the server and chatted with about making videos and they all say the same basic lines which are they would love to come do videos on the server but they cant tolerate the toxic behavior by the older players and for them it takes joy from the game.

Bottom line is the "og's" just want the old system back so they can get on and cheat and feel like they are a somebody when they are in reality nobody but just a player who is more fortunate and would rather cheat then play an honest game.

At this point the only players they can appeal to are the "OGs". Because nobody else wants to play it. Tell me why when the OG's were happy with the server is when there was such a big playerbase.

 

[MaximusOctavius]

(Disclaimer: This is not meant to be a toxic or disrespectful essay towards staff, its simply based on facts and opinions of everyone who wants tmd back. Please do not take it as toxicity, because it isn't.)


Hey all, I realize looking at this staff and most players are not going to take me seriously, but I just need to say some things. This message is directed mostly at staff.


I bet you weren't expecting me on the forums, but I've been thinking and talking to a lot of friends and finally decided to make this thread, please pay close attention to what I have to say.


It's no secret that the server has died, with extreme loss of numbers in players. If I'm being honest, the developers are wasting their time coming out with these new updates nobody really cares about. The only update that would TRULY bring everyone back would be to bring back an OG version of tmd. Whether its TMDOP, TMD-1 (July 2017), or we would even settle with the first version of TMDC. I know, it seems like a lot to ask, but the question is; would it be worth it? Let me explain why these rollback should occur.


It's pretty obvious by now that the owners just simply don't care about the server anymore, and I'm assuming that its because it's not giving them much extra revenue due to the lack of players. When TMD was in its prime from 2016 to early 2018, there was so many players that this server was literally a money-making machine. That's because people enjoyed playing the server so much, and wanted the server to keep at the pace it was already at. It was apparent that the more they changed the gamemode, the less players played, the less money it was making, and the less the owners/admins cared about the server. This is a direct message to owners, MAKE YOUR SERVER ENJOYABLE, MORE PEOPLE WILL PLAY, MORE PEOPLE WILL DONATE, EVERYONE'S HAPPY. It's sad that a server with such amount of potential would amount to nothing. Some of my best memories on Minecraft was on TMD itself, and it saddens me that it fell to nothing; nobody cares about it anymore and its done. We knew that the death of this server was inevitable, as all things are, but why kill it when it still has potential? I'm also sure I am not the only one that feels this way.


TMD's updates were to appeal to newer players, and they were trying to focus on realism. First of all, realism isn't even what made this game fun in the first place. It was fun because it was unique! Everything was so perfectly balanced, it was so enjoyable until the updates came rolling in. It all started with that Left-Click painkiller update. Nobody enjoyed it and that's the majority of the reason why like 60% of the community quit. The people who quit before that quit because the previous updates that had also been killing TMD-1. Although, most stayed. The point of this paragraph is to state that you should be listening to the OG players that were here when the game was super popular and fun. I understand on trying to pull in newer players, but you guys are kind of doing it wrong. Pushing away the older players and killing the server doesn't exactly pull in new players. If they see that like 20 total people are on the whole server they aren't going to think that its good. You guys need to focus on keeping players instead of pulling in players.


It also makes us mad whenever we here word from staff "There's gonna be a new update! We're bringing back og tmd guys!", but in return we don't get og tmd we just get another new update that nobody enjoys. Either that or they just announce it once and talk about it for another week then just forget about it completely. To be honest there's literally nothing stopping you from just completely rolling back the server the way it was in mid 2017. Your excuse to not do that is that you want more new players, but at this point you would get more players doing that instead of just keeping it the way it is right now, nobody enjoys it. You guys also wonder why people make practice servers. There wouldn't be a need for practice servers if the server the fake one was copying was fun for the players. For example, martijn103. He’s definitely one of the people I’m indirectly mentioning in this statement. He and I miss TMD so much, thats why he loves making practice servers and making it the best he can and closest to real TMD as possible.


I really care about this server, and I, and all the other TMD veterans, miss the memories on the server and would honestly do anything to try and bring it back. This would take a complete server rollback to the way it was in 2017, and a complete unban-all. The reason for the unban-all would simply be the fact that so many of the players that made up the TMD population were banned. Even if they got banned for hacking, it was so long ago. I'm sure if the server was the way it was before, enjoyable and fun, they would stop hacking just for the sake of the server revival. If you think what I'm saying doesn't make sense, or there's something wrong, please contact me via discord: hqckey#1944


I know just about nobody's going to take me seriously and I get it, but I only wrote this as an attempt to revive the server. I realize this might not work but it's worth a shot. I know we can bring the server back with at least an attempt. I know it's late, but still please take into consideration.


- hqckey

Hi hqckey, we have recently had a change in the way the server is managed so it has allowed to produce quicker updates with more meaningful changes. We are working much harder to improve our relationship with the community and we hope that you will be understanding when things do not turn out the way you expected at first. Thank you for understanding and we hope to work with you all soon.

That being said, we are planning our next update since we just recently rolled put the vote update. Should you have any more suggestions please let me know, it will help us make an update that matches the wants of the community. Thanks.

 

[MaximusOctavius]

There have been multiple attempts to make an OG server. All of them ended up flopping, and dragging in terms of playerbase with an average of 3 - 7 players on at peek hours. Perhaps more people getting on due to summer break will help it, but it seems to be going further into the red.

Currently, PvE is the leading gamemode, greatly outshining every other gamemode. This is not healthy, and the server is bound to fall sooner or later, the best thing to do at this point is to focus on making PvE better and preserving the playerbase the server has, rather than hoping a large portion of the community returns by appealing to them.

We agree, which is why our focus has been on tmdpvp and tmdpve for the time being.

 

[Pawndah]

I don't think you understood the point of my comment. Don't type without thinking.

Uhh no. everyone understood and ill type whatever i want when i want. Nobody knows you lol.

 

[JBentley694]

At this point the only players they can appeal to are the "OGs". Because nobody else wants to play it. Tell me why when the OG's were happy with the server is when there was such a big playerbase.

Again if that were true then hundreds of so called "og's" would be flocking to tmdc which is the 2017 1.7 tmd they cried for so there is your proof that it's not the server when we bent over backwards to give them what they want.

 

[Chris_XP]

Tell me how its the exact same without talking about the map. Its really not.

From what I can see from being on the server, the mechanics are all the same. It's not as if it uses some intricate mechanics either, it's pretty basic, so whatever I'm apparently missing is some insignificant detail? I could be wrong, who knows, because you keep saying it's not the same without actually elaborating how.

In reality, the large playerbase is really what made the server what it was. Of course it's going to have an entirely different atmosphere when it's dead. You can blame the server for taking so long to come around, but it doesn't change the fact they've already accommodated your desires in this thread.

Edit: Also, just some food for thought, has it ever occured that most of you literally hack/autoclick nowadays? I don't mean specifically you, just generally the people who complain about having an identical OG TMD, when the mechanics ARE the same - but rather people just exploit them.

TL;DR : The irreversible damage done stems from both staff and players decisions + MC dying, and nothing will help it.

 

[SummonersJhift]

20 players on tmdpvp at prime hours is considered at least not alive.

Tmdpve hits over 60. One server not having as many players doesn't mean dead.

 

[Hqckey]

Uhh no. everyone understood and ill type whatever i want when i want. Nobody knows you lol.

Nobody knows me. Alright bud, the only people who even talk to you is Jahango because you ride his ****?
Nobody likes you, sorry bud its the truth.

 

[Hqckey]

I'm done replying to comments, I guess people don't really miss tmd as i thought people would

 

[JBentley694]

Welp I guess they don't then. Im pretty sure that you don't even know what you are asking for at this point. Tmdc is 1.7 tmd which is everything you want apparently, sorry people don't care to play that mode. You people don't really miss tmd when it's there, like for real no joke it's right there. But yeah this argument seems to be going nowhere being you are asking for something that already exist. Seems like you just may be a tad upset due to your recent punishments and decided to make pointless rant that just goes in circles.