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    curiousgeorge341

    curiousgeorge341

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    curiousgeorge341
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    Boscafano said:
    This is the second time you've come onto a post I've made addressing a clear issue (In my opinion) on the server, while also giving no defense at all to the subject you are supporting. If you are going to comment on the matter, at least have something intelligent to say on the issue.
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    Oh damn look at you what a savage, sorry for not having anything intelligent to say I thought I was on the HavocMC forums not Judge Judy.

    Also for your information the reason I didn't give an argument was because I wasn't trying to debate I was simply letting the staff know my opinion on the matter. I wouldn't have commented except you didn't include an option to vote so commenting was the only way to let the staff know my opinion on said issue. So just a tip for your future use on the forums, since you seem to be new at this, if you don't want people to state their opinion without it being followed by something "intelligent" than you should probably give them another option such as voting.

    Hopefully my advice will help you in the future and you will no longer have to flaunt your ignorance around so publicly. :D
     
    UterZorker

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    curiousgeorge341 said:
    Oh damn look at you what a savage, sorry for not having anything intelligent to say I thought I was on the HavocMC forums not Judge Judy.

    Also for your information the reason I didn't give an argument was because I wasn't trying to debate I was simply letting the staff know my opinion on the matter. I wouldn't have commented except you didn't include an option to vote so commenting was the only way to let the staff know my opinion on said issue. So just a tip for your future use on the forums, since you seem to be new at this, if you don't want people to state their opinion without it being followed by something "intelligent" than you should probably give them another option such as voting.

    Hopefully my advice will help you in the future and you will no longer have to flaunt your ignorance around so publicly. :D
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    RECKT ALL HAIL AMBUSH
     
    Boscafano

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    curiousgeorge341 said:
    Oh damn look at you what a savage, sorry for not having anything intelligent to say I thought I was on the HavocMC forums not Judge Judy.

    Also for your information the reason I didn't give an argument was because I wasn't trying to debate I was simply letting the staff know my opinion on the matter. I wouldn't have commented except you didn't include an option to vote so commenting was the only way to let the staff know my opinion on said issue. So just a tip for your future use on the forums, since you seem to be new at this, if you don't want people to state their opinion without it being followed by something "intelligent" than you should probably give them another option such as voting.

    Hopefully my advice will help you in the future and you will no longer have to flaunt your ignorance around so publicly. :D
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    So let me get this straight, because I wanted constructive criticism on an issue that I brought up, I'm ignorant? I believe the only ignorance being flaunted here is by the one who comes onto other people's posts purely to put a mindless response, attack the user for calling them out on their lack of intelligent criticism and then claiming that because I did not specify that the post was a debate, I am ignorant. Stop trying to flaunt big words when you yourself said, "Oh damn look at you what a savage, sorry for not having anything intelligent to say I thought I was on the HavocMC forums not Judge Judy."

    This is purely a post trying to gather support for nerfing the spas, if you feel like the spas is fine as it is, don't reply to it. I would have assumed that would be the most logical way of showing you don't want anything to change.

    Also, do me a favor and just ignore my posts from now on, since you don't seem capable of properly and respectfully talking about an issue or topic.
     
    TrueViolett

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    Boscafano said:
    So let me get this straight, because I wanted constructive criticism on an issue that I brought up, I'm ignorant? I believe the only ignorance being flaunted here is by the one who comes onto other people's posts purely to put a mindless response, attack the user for calling them out on their lack of intelligent criticism and then claiming that because I did not specify that the post was a debate, I am ignorant. Stop trying to flaunt big words when you yourself said, "Oh damn look at you what a savage, sorry for not having anything intelligent to say I thought I was on the HavocMC forums not Judge Judy."

    This is purely a post trying to gather support for nerfing the spas, if you feel like the spas is fine as it is, don't reply to it. I would have assumed that would be the most logical way of showing you don't want anything to change.

    Also, do me a favor and just ignore my posts from now on, since you don't seem capable of properly and respectfully talking about an issue or topic.
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    And agreed again.
    Maybe this time, instead of starting another WorldWar on HavocMc threads (Because God knows there's already over 50 on here) this can be avoided by knowing when To say something and when Not to say something. However, Boscafano, one thing I do agree with curiousgeorge341 on is this. If you don't want to have to deal with these kinds of people giving dumb, meaningless and empty responses, make a pole so they can just vote "Yes" or "No" instead of them Attempting to "rek" people by forum posts.

    I'm learning to take my own advice now since apparently tons of people can't catch a hint as well. :p
     
    TrueViolett

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    LinkOFeare said:
    We already have /tpa cooldowns, buying items in shops cooldowns, and now "gun-shooting" cooldowns... Now we have to wait until we can shoot a gun. Is anymore nerfing really necessary?
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    Nerf.
    EVERYTHING.
    EVERYTHING.
    (yay 2017 we lived)
     
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    LinkOFeare

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    As a compromise for all players, how about we just make them all nerf guns?
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    Boscafano said:
    Since everyone seems to complain about, "Spas Spam" and "Lack of skill" when someone uses the spas, it's about time we talk about the issue of THE OVERPOWERED SPAS being nerfed.

    Let me first state, that I am fully in support of the spas being nerfed in terms of damage and fire rate. I whole heartedly believe that it would create much more balanced and fun PvP, while also forcing players to use other guns such as the M60 and AK47 (Both of which are good guns, just overshadowed by the power of the spas at close range).

    The spas does 10.0 damage per pellet, which of course is the best of all the shotguns available in terms of damage done. The compliment to this however, is the fire rate at which you can fire the spas. It takes 03.44 seconds to fire a whole clip of the spas and just for comparison, it takes 6.45 seconds to fire 6 rounds from the Mossberg (The tier 3 shotgun). I am aware that the spas in real life is a very powerful weapon, but this is a Minecraft PvP server where there are some serious balancing issues in the PvP system.

    Anyone really can look at the prior stats and figure out in a second that the spas is the go to weapon on the server for close range. Obviously this leads to many fights beginning and ending with a quick 2 or 3 hit succession with the spas, resulting in a quick kill. Countering this with the M60, AK or Barrett is very challenging as none of those can really compare to the speed and power that the spas puts out at close range.

    Clearly, many people on the server rely on the spas which, would trigger many people to backlash at any changes made to it, but I think at this point it should be necessary. I fully supported the removal of comboing from the server as it was a cheap bug used to kill someone fast. Of course this just resulted in people reverting back to just spamming the spas and getting kills just as quickly (There is always problems).

    My only suggestions to Nerf the spas to make it more balanced would be to either decrease it's fire rate or lower it's damage significantly. The fire rate between shots being increased would open the user up to being shot down by someone using an M60 or an AK easier, as they won't have to worry about 3 consecutive spas rounds flying at them in under 2 seconds. The damage being lowered would simply increase the survival rate of the victims of a spas spam and give them more time to counter with either their own spas or another gun entirely.

    Either way, I believe that this issue needs to be fixed once and for all by the Owners as it has always been a complaint I have seen in the community and now more than every since comboing has been removed.

    TLDR; Spas OP pls nerf
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    I don't think it should be nerfed but it should be more rare so less people have it because the spa will be the same as the mossberg
     
    Boscafano

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    TheGamerHYT said:
    I don't think it should be nerfed but it should be more rare so less people have it because the spa will be the same as the mossberg
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    Well that's the dilemma here. You can't make it rarer since anyone can buy them from Rick. You can't make them more expensive because a large amount of players have infinite. That's why I feel like this is the only way to create a more balanced pvp system, by nerfing a single gun rather than removing infinite or removing the spas from the npc shop.
     
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    Boscafano said:
    Well that's the dilemma here. You can't make it rarer since anyone can buy them from Rick. You can't make them more expensive because a large amount of players have infinite. That's why I feel like this is the only way to create a more balanced pvp system, by nerfing a single gun rather than removing infinite or removing the spas from the npc shop.
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    but again if u nerf it I will be like the Mossberg
     
    Boscafano

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    TheGamerHYT said:
    but again if u nerf it I will be like the Mossberg
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    Well not exactly, you could always nerf it so that way it keeps it's fire rate but, the damage done by it is lesser than that of the mossberg. That way there would be more of a penalty to missing shots.
     
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    Boscafano said:
    Well not exactly, you could always nerf it so that way it keeps it's fire rate but, the damage done by it is lesser than that of the mossberg. That way there would be more of a penalty to missing shots.
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    true well if they do nerf tell me how it is am banned atm this is my br's acct but on my main I got banned DNA_Prototype_X
     
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