Unfair Demotion

[CravenPython108]

Is this post really necessary? If you have questions regarding a staff member then I suggest you talk to one of the Sr.Mods or Administrator. I see threads like these very pointless and they start up fights.

If you'd like to know, sr mods cant give a reason for his demotion in PMs either.

 

[SummonersJhift]

Oh my Lord Peach this thread has turned into CNN, its spreading its hate and lies quick we must Destroy it. Yes Destroy the CNN threads from the server. With Fire!

Now we only need a meme war...

I got chu give me a sec

 

[MrMe5303]

IHonk/IHank was a good staff in my PERSONAL opinion why he was demoted and the actions leading to his demotion are none of my business, neither are they any of yours. However, if you want to find out the reason behind IHanks demotion, you can ask him personally and if he chooses to share that information, he can. Players (such as myself) don't have access to what happens behind the scenes on HavocMC. Meaning that we don't know the full story of what happened. As stated above, if you want a better picture of what happened you can talk to the people directly involved and if they choose to share their information is up to them. Remember, there will always be biased and personal opinions, and just because your opinion doesn't match with someone else's doesn't mean you have to start an argument.

 

[SummonersJhift]

@JBentley694
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1rZoAtu-QsL5oNnu5PJ7oMVd-QdToYJADcHH20ZyRP8M/edit#slide=id.p

 

[SomeDumbCat]

Please someone close this all of the people insulting staff is ridiculous you are complaining about a fair punishment and if you need some screenshots or explanations I will be happy to provide some. All I request is that you let the servers hard working staff do their jobs because honestly this was a good call on!

 

[CravenPython108]

Please someone close this all of the people insulting staff is ridiculous you are complaining about a fair punishment and if you need some screenshots or explanations I will be happy to provide some. All I request is that you let the servers hard working staff do their jobs because honestly this was a good call on!

When were staff insulted?

Also, feel free to show us these screenshots.

 

[SomeDumbCat]

Hmm let me think... "The staff team gives zero '****s' and is "corrupt, unfair and upright bad." Also I would provide in private not o show the word that would be rude to iHank 2ho on some accasions was a good stafg member. I will no longer be humoring you have a nice day.

 

[CravenPython108]

Hmm let me think... "The staff team gives zero '****s' and is "corrupt, unfair and upright bad." I will no longer be humoring you have a nice day.

I can think of a half dozen threads still unlocked that have worse.
Since you cant contribute to the topic, it's just as well you're leaving.

 

[SomeDumbCat]

You are a rather rude child hopefully that will improve as you age.

 

[CravenPython108]

You are a rather rude child hopefully that will improve as you age.

You can't even use proper grammar, so I'm not sure how I'm the child here.

Hmm let me think... "The staff team gives zero '****s' and is "corrupt, unfair and upright bad." Also I would provide in private not o show the word that would be rude to iHank 2ho on some accasions was a good stafg member. I will no longer be humoring you have a nice day.

 

[SomeDumbCat]

I'll explain I don't feel like typing properly on a game forum when I have nerve damage and typing is difficult also your only 14 there you go young man.

 

[CravenPython108]

I'll explain I don't feel like typing properly on a game forum when I have nerve damage and typing is difficult also your only 14 there you go young man.

Cant think of anything else to insult, so he insults my age.

If it's hard to type, then don't. Simple as that.

 

[SummonersJhift]

As the Havoc war begins, I open the beginning of the war!

https://docs.google.com/presentatio...YJADcHH20ZyRP8M/edit#slide=id.g2495638338_0_4

 

[Wobiee]

If you'd like to know, sr mods cant give a reason for his demotion in PMs either.

iHank has already given the reason himself on the post on page 1. 'I was demoted because of these reasons which Peach addressed on TeamSpeak: an ongoing attitude, and aggressiveness towards staff, no major visible improvement after being spoken to multiple times, and doing a Jr. Mods job.' Sr. Mods are not allowed to give out the reasons as part of a policy we use to protect our demoted staff members. As iHank had already stated reasons for his demotion I don't see why you would want the reasons coming from anyone other than himself. If you have any further questions please PM a staff member as this thread does not need to continue.

 

[CravenPython108]

iHank has already given the reason himself on the post on page 1. 'I was demoted because of these reasons which Peach addressed on TeamSpeak: an ongoing attitude, and aggressiveness towards staff, no major visible improvement after being spoken to multiple times, and doing a Jr. Mods job.' Sr. Mods are not allowed to give out the reasons as part of a policy we use to protect our demoted staff members. As iHank had already stated reasons for his demotion I don't see why you would want the reasons coming from anyone other than himself. If you have any further questions please PM a staff member as this thread does not need to continue.

Stop saying this thread does not need to continue.

If any hate came out of this thread, it came because of you guys. This thread was made for support, and you know that.

 

[purrr]

I didn't see ihank on tmd-1 a whole lot (or really at all to be honest) but I believe that either:

1- Ban people from making these rant/****posts, since they're not helpful and they clash players and staff

OR

2- Ask the staff for their permission for details in their demotion or ask them to explain so everyone isn't "what happened??1??1".

Staff has its (many) faults, and the application/demotion/promotion system seems broken from what I see, but I believe it was in the staff's best interest to demote iHonk.

Just my two cents.

 

[Katitude]

Stop saying this thread does not need to continue.

If any hate came out of this thread, it came because of you guys. This thread was made for support, and you know that.

I'm sorry if this thread didn't turn out the way you wanted, but hopefully this experience will teach you what happens when the community gets involved. The mature way to handle these things are private messages, not threads. Sometimes in threads I'll see people arguing and going on until they can prove a point, but there is no point to prove. Sometimes people will also try to get a reaction out of everyone so it'll make that person look better and convince people to sway their opinions.

Threads should be friendly, trying to suggest ideas and feedback on updates or any questions... not this. For demotions, we don't like releasing everything because we've had plenty of experiences with this sort of incident and it never ends well. We also like to discuss things and find a logical perspective as well as thinking "will this person really change, or will it be the same scene every time". You see, I have witnessed hate threads too many times and the title of this thread itself is already a huge indicator that this wasn't supposed to be for support, as the title "Unfair Demotion" is an argumentative statement, and I already knew because you made a thread of hate when Culpeo was demoted. No only that, but just remember that we've literally had players made it very heated and nasty because they were getting involved in their friends situation.

See, we have made our best changes for the staff team and we have systems that ensure non-biased decisions, and we monitor how Staff are doing their jobs. Something I'm very thankful for, we have staff hosting activités for fun, and from that, it makes the team close and more friendly among each other so we aren't just Staff slaving at the server each day. This is great, and we try to keep the community the same way. I will host random events such as flying with the elytra around the safe zone as a fun thing to reduce tension, and this is only half related but the point is showing you we are all good people and we don't like to stir up a toxic community, especially on the forums.

I've been Staff for over a year now, and I used to check the forums every five minutes and looking at every thread in my spare time. I've seen how angry people get and I would too be upset if my friend was demoted, especially if they always looked like they did their job well. The thing is, you need to let them handle their situation themselves, even if you want to help, it only does more damage. The community is suggesting you message us privately and stop responding here to keep the peace, and acknowledging the fact that you want to support him, Hank will get that aside from the forums; I'm sure they would message them privately too.

I'm glad we were able to discuss this - in a way - and I have given you input to help all of you. Hank, I am not happy with the mistakes you have made, but I respect the good moments; you aren't quite cut out for our team, but you may apply in a far bit (many months) and we'll take it from there. To the creator of this thread, I'm trying to tone it down, so if you want to help you friend, I suggest you - telling you - please follow my suggestion.. please do not respond in any negative way.

Thank you for reading and understanding. ^-^

 

[SummonersJhift]

Ban people from making these rant/****posts

Um no offense but you are one to talk....

 

[purrr]

Um no offense but you are one to talk....

*regarding that topic*

Sorry, I thought you would be able to read and figure that out from the context available

 

[SummonersJhift]

*regarding that topic*

Sorry, I thought you would be able to read and figure that out from the context available

Then the same can be said for this